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Uly1080
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll throw in my 2 cents. I don't claim to be a tire expert, so don't expect all the lingo to be correct, but here's my take in the very short amount of time I've had these.

I have only run Scoipron Syncs (2 sets) prior to these, so keep that in mind. While I really liked the Syncs, I decided to give the PR2s a try primarily due to the positive reviews I've seen here, and I wanted to try a dual compound after my last long road trip devoured the Syncs.
After going easy on them for the first 30 or so miles, I decided it time to start "breaking in" the edges. Right away these tires inspire confidence not really felt on a new pair of Syncs (and keep in mind, I really like the Syncs). There is definitely a difference in steering quickness and overall feel. The best way I can describe the difference (and you may laugh) is the Syncs feel good, with a solid contact patch, initiating turns quick enough and on a "wide" rail (to butcher the term). The PR2 (to me) felt almost alarmingly quick, as in wanting to turn anywhere with minimal effort. The contact patch seems small, yet firmer, and on a "narrower" rail. These tires get into a turn with minimal effort and stay planted, until you're done. I have a favorite road where hanging off the Uly has become a common practice, but with the PR2s, it's not even needed. The bike literally feels like it's riding a tight rope, in a good way (ironically, I believe that's Pirelli's ad in the latest Motorcyclist...I'm not that original).
Keep in mind, that my last Syncs were toast, and the rear was relatively "squared off", so "quickness" my be a relative term in comparing any nice new round tire.
All that to say, I can't see to many people being disappointed in these tires, even though the price is a bit steep. If the tire life lives up to my expectations, then we may have a winner. These are just my initial observations of the first couple hundred miles, but I highly recommend these things to anyone on the fence about new rubber for the Uly.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great info Josh,

How many miles did you get out of the Sync rears.

Thanks
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Bigkuri
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's a great and accurate review Uly1080 - pretty much exactly what I found with them too. Especially it's quick'ness.

Almost as good (quick) as the Conti Road Attacks - brilliant tyres.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Similar results as I have had. I'm at 2,000 miles. I hope to get another 1,500-2,000 miles out of them. I have never gotten more than 4,200 miles out of any rear tire.
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Uly1080
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

JB, I had about 5K on the rear, and it was toast. So much so, that I have no idea what punctured its smooth, square, tread-less exterior last week...maybe a small, dull, harmless pebble.

Ft_bstrd, I believe it was your initial review which finally convinced me to try them, so good call.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool!

I just didn't feel like I could make them break traction. So far that feeling hasn't changed in 2,000 miles.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just had the Road 2's spooned onto to my '04 12R on Saturday. They feel heavier that the original Dunlops (207?208?), but that might be due to the fact that I've been riding on bologna skins for the past 1500 miles.
Handling is vastly improved over the stock tires. I think the Dunlops turned in quicker, but the Road 2s are rock steady and have even eliminated my decel wobble. I always felt like I was fighting the front wheel with the Dunlops, and they required heavy countersteering to hold any line in a turn (probably due to the fact that they were worn beyong recognition). The roads are 100x better. They do not fight me at all. Most turns are now just body english and weighting the pegs. It's like having a whole different bike...seriously.
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05mxdiesel
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just put on a Pirelli Strada on the rear of my uly. If it doesn't last to my expectations then I will turn to the PR2's. After 500 miles grip is excellent even though the tire feels very hard from the corsa's I'm used to. I'd be happy with 5k out of a tire instead of the 3-3.5 that I;m used to.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had similar experience with the PR2's on my S2. I doubt I'll put them on the Uly because I need that dirt/mud/gravel ability...but I've been very pleased with the way they behave on the S2. Short mileage at this point though...got the Uly right after the tires went on, and most of my miles have been on the Uly : )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ran mine on several miles of wet gravel, dirt, and mud without issue. I was very pleasantly surprise.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fatty is fooling you. He didn't "run" his Pilot shod bike on gravel, dirt, and mud. He BLISTERED the gravel, dirt, and mud.

I was WAY back puttering in first gear as slow as I could go without slipping the clutch. Fatty and Barker waited for us, and when we took off again, my competitive nature kicked in and I wicked it up to about 45mph hitting SECOND gear...wooo hoo! They pulled away like I was standing still.

It ain't the tires folks. It's the rider. : )
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Brazeau
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd be happy with 5k out of a tire instead of the 3-3.5 that I;m used to.

The Stradas, then, should make you happy. I got 6100 out of the rear before a flat prematurely ended its life.

DB
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Uly1080
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It ain't the tires folks. It's the rider.


Chad, I completely agree, but you of all people here (from what I read) know the importance of quality tires and the difference in (fine) handling it can make. That was my original point.
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