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Sanchez
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

... and no, I don't mean to change the tires. : )

I went to a friend's place Saturday night and tipped my bike over in the middle of the road. He lives on a pretty steep hill, and I thought I'd passed his house. Halfway through the u-turn with my bike perpendicular to the slope, I realized I hadn't passed it after all and stopped. Now I can flat foot the Ulysses with no trouble on level ground, but on this hill I put my right foot down, and it just kept going. I touched my foot down just past the point of no return and had to ease it down to the ground.

For value added embarrassment, my doctor told me not to lift anything heavy with my right arm while I recover from a broken collar bone, and I completely failed to get my bike off the ground one-armed and up hill. I had to ask one of my friend's crazy neighbors for help, and he accused me of intentionally dropping the bike so that I could trick him into touching it and then say he did it.

Fortunately the nutty old guy had some younger, less crazy relatives with him, and they helped me out. Once we got it back upright, I tried to put the kickstand down, saw the bike was going to fall back over to the right again, and realized just how steep the hill was.

So my question to you all is this: when you tip your Uly over, how do you pick it up off the ground? One arm or no, it doesn't seem like it should be that difficult.
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Strokizator
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If your wheels are pointing uphill then the effort it takes to stand your bike up is a great deal more than on level ground. If you are by yourself then the only alternative is to grab a wheel and spin the bike around until your handlebars are on the high side and the wheels are downhill(ouch!). Either that or stand there while you wait for help to arrive.

This is the method we use for dirt bikes that make it halfway up a steep hill.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Haven't had the pleasure of dropping my Uly yet, but when I dropped my FLHP during a Battletrax (yes...running a bagger) I just put my butt on the radio box (top box), back to the bike, grabbed a saddlebag guard, and stood up with the bike behind me. I dropped it on the left; if I drop it on the right (yes, that bike likes to slide in Battletrax....) I put the kickstand "down" first and just heave it over onto the stand.

On my Uly, I'd probably put my back to the top box, grab the passenger handrail, and pick it up the same way (back to the bike, lift with your knees). Ditto the "wheels uphill" problem though, unless you're super-tall or super-tough it adds quite a bit more weight to the process.
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Towjam
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.pinkribbonrides.com/dropped.html
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anti-gravity ray gun. Works every time!

But really, I have tipped mine over twice with the bags on. I just grabbed the bars, got down low and pushed up with my legs as much as possible. It may have helped that I was very pissed at the time. Both times resulted in making my back sore enough to have to work that out. I think the bags gave me a pivot point to get it started going up.

There used to be a video going around as to how a 100 pound grandmother used a levering technique with her backing her butt into the seat a lifting with her legs. She used a Gold Wing to demonstrate. I thing she would be screwed with a Uly with no bags on it, lying flat on the ground. The GW has running boards and bags and such making it kinda round.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.pinkribbonrides.com/dropped.html

+1

Good one TJ, you posted it before I could find it.
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Stevem123
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if I drop it on the right (yes, that bike likes to slide in Battletrax....) I put the kickstand "down" first and just heave it over onto the stand.


Well I guess even an old dog can learn a new trick....I've dropped mine on the right twice and each time when I got it picked up I then realized now what do I do....I'm on the wrong side and can't reach the kick-stand so I precariously held the bike while trying to get to the other side to put down the dang kick-stand.

I guess I was too embarrased at the time to think before picking up the bike. I'll try to remember that one next time. Thanks for the tip! Over....LOL!

BC Steve
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+2 on the link. You can lift a LOT more like that than you can in any other position. I've lifted my Uly with all three bags on and loaded using that technique- related to an attempted turn-around down a long dirt road after a missed turn trying to find C3 Central at MBIV .
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Seanp
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, +3 on the pinkribbonrides link. I dropped mine trying to turn it around on a dead-end trail in the middle of the woods where nobody knew where I was. I was able to lift it back up this way, without much hassle.
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Miamiuly
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Like a dirt bike mostly, I use the bars and rear grip handle, lift with legs not back.

I face the bike but put my hip into as it comes up. It has happened off road a couple of times.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a skirt like hers too, just in case I drop my bike.

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Dr_greg
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I beg to differ with the "pink ribbon" video. I dropped the Uly a year ago without side cases; that sucker was FLAT on the ground.

"Well," I thought, "now I get to try out the pink ribbon technique," and I tried to lift with my legs, etc. That Uly wasn't going anywhere.

My quads are not as strong as when I was a racing cyclist (pushbike) but I'm not a 155-pound complete weakling.

If you look at the "skert" picture that bike is by no means FLAT on the ground. That makes a HUGE difference.

I had to wait until help arrived. Now I never ride without the side cases. I can pick it up if it goes over with the side cases on.
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Buelltoys
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to place a hand on the bars and a hand on the grab bar. Of course this is from the side the bike is leaning on.

I had my moment when I was coming up to a stop light and was turning right. So of course I decided to make a rolling stop until a car I didn't see right away came by. I stopped the bike quick but did not get feet down quick enough. The turn has a slope to it so I dropped it in front of about 5 cars. The uly is a hard bike to pick up on a slope.
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Prowler
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with the DR. on this one. My Uly dropped on it's side on a slight down hill (long story...) without the bags on. That bike was about as flat on it's side as it could get. I thought I was going to herniate myself lifting that thing. Whole different ballgame vs. the same bike with bags. I'd love to see the pink skirt lady lift one of these bikes minus the bags. Would certainly be good for a laugh.....her standing there bent over with her skirt up over her head......
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

her standing there bent over with her skirt up over her head......

My favorite kinda girl....
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Skert method also assumes that you've dropped your bike on a surface with good traction. Something that I've not yet done. If it is slippery, you can't 'push'.

Mark
in Arizona
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Towjam
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


her standing there bent over with her skirt up over her head......

My favorite kinda girl....


WARNING: Political correctness null and void in following message.

You've been warned.

Reminds me of the old joke:

Q: What do southern women put behind their ears to attract southern men?












A: Their ankles.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

??

Poor shortys. I just pick it up - only needs one hand to do it. Easy.
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Luftkoph
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I always have my big heffer girl friend pick it up for me,and shes always around cause I can't leave the damn house with out her following
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Ihavemanyfleas
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave - you kiwi's like to understate everything. Like the time I rode the Queen Charlotte on my mountain bike with the 'understanding' that it was mostly flat. Nice chat with Search and Rescue after I finally made it to Portage! : )
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Danger_dave
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>the Queen Charlotte<<

I destroyed the footpegs on a Triumph Tiger. ; )
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Ihavemanyfleas
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was lucky enough to ride a Tiger while I was there. Fantastic ride... I tried to talk Grim(?) into stocking a Uly for my next trip over.
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Bobmcc
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Um, back on topic, rear handgrip plus leg lift worked fine on a gravel-strewn downhill lie ('06 Uly, no side cases) Learned other stuff, too. 1) My relocated BAS works, 2) nothing broke and there was barely a scuff mark (thank you Buell!), 3) oil warning light came on and stayed on even though I let the bike stand for a while before restarting it, and 4) 25 years of riding experience is no protection against 2 seconds of inattention.
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Xcephasx
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

usually pink ribbon lift works pretty well. don't forget to lock the steering column (makes a difference between turning the handlebars and lifting the bike)

the worst predicament i got into was in a dry wash. tipped over climbing a hill and my tires were literally pointing skyward.

this was a remote area, so i figured i was going to be the only one to help me out out the jamb.

tried the grab the wheel and rotate the bike (poor header)as Strokizator mentioned. this helped a bit, and as my gas was spewing out of the overflow i was able to get it back on it's feet again... briefly. i had neglected to put the kickstand down and the bike tipped to the other side!
tires skyward again, i plugged up the overflow with a nearby twig and flopped down, exhausted and defeated. (it was in the ninety's that day)

about 20 minutes later a 4WD vehicle happened along and they helped me out.
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Riding_tall
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had my Uly less that a month and I've dropped it twice . .sigh. The first time was my first ride on the bike and also my first time back to a bike in almost 10 years ... went to a parking lot to practice slow speed turn's an clutch work .. no issues. leaving the parking lot I stall the bike, go to put my foot down and it's all pee gravel, foot shoots out and BAMB bike tip's over. worse is there is someone in the lot across the street pulling out and looking right at me. getting the bike up the was no issue cuz I was PISSED .. prob. could have lifted it over my head. Second time I am using my wife's truck to bring it to the local dealer for a 5k service and check-up .. I did'nt tie it down right and one of the strap's comes loose , luckily it just tip's over in the bed of the truck .. but I had a %*&*^( of a time getting it back up-right could'nt get any leverage from any angle.
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