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Hooper
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Though I love my Badweb more than anyplace else on the Internets, advrider.com is a good site for more Ulylovin' and motorcyclin'. I came across this balderdash/poppycock/pishposh tonight:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33 8109

Is there really such a thing as a "terrible" bike to ride? Is there really a premium-priced bike out there that isn't even CLOSE to being worth what they're asking? My two beginnner bikes - a Yamaha V-Star 650 Classic (think Softail Standard) and Suzuki Katana 600 were both fantastically fun bikes that I bought for about $3500 each, when they were around 5 years old. Is there really a bike that is just absolute SHYTE upon purchase?

(Message edited by hooper on May 10, 2008)
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Ry329
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's it now i am mad !
No one told me this was
a (terrible bike to ride)..
I love my uly! Am i a terrible person???
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Rays
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Motorcycle journalist? - I don't think so. I don't know the author and have no idea of the motivation behind penning such vitriol but I will make sure that I don't contribute to his continued employment by buying the magazine again.
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Growl
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it's bogus... trying to boost Triumph sales, I suppose
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Old news.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's face it - they make some valid points.

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bet triumph paid him for that drivel. Anybody that has RIDDEN it off road knows it is quite capable. He could get a big dose of HTFU if he wants to come ride locally and try and keep up.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Low powered engine designed on the Mayflower...but it's "pretty good at getting around a track" and a "wheelie dog" that has no problem hoisting the front wheel.

Hm.
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Barker
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell bikes are all turds. The worst being the 1125R.

But wait! Don't worry, I can take care of these worthless piles of metal and dispose of them properly. Just send me a PM to arrange free pick-up of these slow, primitive and especially NOT FUN bikes.



(Message edited by barker on May 10, 2008)
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Chris_socal
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny, I spoke to Lance Holst from SportRider Magazine about the bikes at the track not too long ago, and he seemed to like the bike. He has test ridden both the X and XT. Other than the delay when getting on the throttle from idle issue, he spoke highly of the bike.

I see some issues with the article written by our friend from the other side of the pond.

1) "Priced to Stay" - Priced too high, and, most importantly, higher than "the excellent Triumph Tiger."

Do I detect some bias here???

2) "Key to Success" - "The problems start as soon as you're given the key. Where does the thing go?" "It's as if the big concepts have been executed by Buell himself, leaving the work experience students to finish off the machine while everyone else drinks Bud and plays in the company softball league."

You have got to be kidding me. The fact that this one made it into a top 10 list is ridiculous. This guy obviously attended seminars given by Joseph Goebbels. This point is at best rhetoric and should be absolutely ignored by anyone with a brain.

3) "Seen the Light?" "The lights are barely worthy of the name. It's almost as if we've retreated to the days of six-volt batteries."

Aside from the rhetoric in this statement, it does carry some weight. The lighting could be better, but the leap to six-volt batteries is a bit extreme.

4) "Gasping for Air." "The chunky squirts of acceleration between 3-4,000 rpm disappear as you get higher up the rev range." "This is exposed on track or if you're trying to get a wriggle on, the bike literally had to sit at 6,000 rpm to stop the bike from bogging down out of a turn or an overtake."

First off, nobody in their right mind would take a stock bike onto the track, so this one should be tossed. Secondly, IT'S A FRICKIN' DUAL SPORT! Who are you trying to overtake on a track with this bike? Another guy on a dirtbike with knobbys?

5) "Fuelling the Fire." "The 16.7 litres of fuel that are housed in the frame really aren't enough. 120 miles before the fuel light goes on isn't really enough to be an adventure."

OK, I have to agree with him on this one.

6) "Design Fault." After noting that there is a plate on the Ulysses with Erik Buell's signature on it, the author opines that he "is surprised that this constant innovator wanted his signature on the machine." This is "because it really is a calamity that a bike can leave a production line looking like this."

This is a completely subjective statement. Most people that see the bike like it because it looks so unique. Its uniqueness is one of its drawing characteristics.

7) "Brake Test." "The nifty looking rim-mounted disc and six-piston caliper are more for show than, er, stop. Power is not their forte, and nor is feel."

I have a feeling he did not take the time to adjust the brake lever. It is soft out the door, but turn that adjuster knob a bit and I dare you to grab a fist full.

8) "Alternative Opinion." After observing that "the Ulysses is most comfortable in town," the author suggests an alternative, "a Super TT that uses the same motor and suspension as the Ulysses, but saving nearly a grand in the process."

So, it really is starting to look as if this guy is not a DS rider. He has made mention of two different bikes that are not dual sports. Perhaps he was the wrong person to write this review.

9) "Muddy Useless." "Dual purpose machine my arse, I've known agoraphobic scouts who have had more adventure in them." This is because "the fundamentals prevent the bike from going very far off road."

Again, more rhetoric. How about something to support your argument. This hardly empowers me with any knowledge to make my own decisions.

I bet if we were to probe this guy a bit we would discover that part of his underlying hatred towards this bike is that he just hates American.


10) "Muffled Cries." "The finish on the metalwork is really poor. The muffler (placed underneath a bike that is supposed to go off-road? Are they mental?) rusts at the first sign of autumn, and after three weeks of use, and regular cleaning, the once pristine exhaust looked like it had been prized off the Bismark."

Now I know where I have seen this guy. He is the one walking down the street more interested in keeping his white sneakers white than he is experiencing life around him. Again another clear showing of someone who has no real desire to ride dual sports.

News Flash jackass, bikes taken off road are going to rust!


I guess they will hire anyone with a motorcycle license and Microsoft Office over there at SuperBike Magazine. Don't forget that they are a for-profit organization, and are prone to be biased. There are reputable publications out there, but even they are subject to being biased as well.

I think the fact that there is an entire message board dedicated to the bike is a strong piece of evidence that supports the notion that this guy's outlandish opinion is just that, his (and only his) opinion. Although I am not familiar with the magazine (it may actually be ok, and one idiot slipped through the cracks), I will be putting it on my list of publications to stay clear of.

The individual responsible for this abomination should not be allowed to technically review anything ever again. Although at times he may have had some valid points, he discredits himself with his blatant rhetoric, forcing an educated person to question everything he has written. If the rest of the articles from this magazine are written the same way then we (the consumers) need to stop supporting it.

IMPORTANT NOTE: For those of you that aren't so smart but have found a way to make enough money to afford a bike in this price range, you go ahead and listen to this guy. We don't want you in our club anyway.

Lastly, I would like to quote FtBstrd.

"Least amount of journalistic talent you can get for the money."

-Chris
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First off, nobody in their right mind would take a stock bike onto the track,

ME, And I pass like they are standing still, THE INDIAN, NOT THE ARROW!!


120 miles before the fuel light goes

My fuel light came on at 167 miles two days ago, I filled up at 190 miles?? Oh and I ride the snot out of it. WTF are yall doing to get such poor mileage?
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Chris_socal
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"THE INDIAN, NOT THE ARROW!!"

I totally agree with that. I think it was the fundamental problem with the guy writing the review.

"My fuel light came on at 167 miles two days ago"

What brand are you putting in? I find that big blue likes Chevron, but from day one, I only get at best 130 before the light comes on.

-Chris
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the 130-ish fuel light. Granted, only 1500 miles on my '06s clock so far (bought it about a month ago...).
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Skullym1
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quite a few of the Brit bike mags poke fun at us on a regular basis. This the worst I've seen. Next he'll be taking a Sportster out to the track and making fun of it.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Uly was never intended to be a "dual sport" motorcycle. It was marketed as an "own ALL the corners" machine if I recall correctly, meaning dirt roads and pavement alike.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kudos to anyone who does take it off-road though. : ]
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The "writer" has his head up his ass. He's probably trying to suck up to the editors of Motorcyclist magazine, so that they'll offer him a job.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with some of it and disagree with some of it, but the most incorrect part of the article is his assesment of the Tiger. That is by far the worst motorcycle for the money and the absolute flop of this class. I've never ridden a motorcycle that odd.
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