| Author | Message | ||
     08uly |
Got my temp dipstick from EG recently and wanted to post some pics etc... Seems I'm getting pretty high readings on my 2008 Uly. This was about 20 miles @ 50 to 65 mph (~3200 rpm) @ 74 degrees, 5,200 miles on my Uly still with dino oil. Pic was taken a few minutes after shutdown. EG, I may need more range on this? Perhaps after my 5,000 mile service (next week) and synthetic oil I'll see lower numbers? I also wonder if this is a result of more efficient heat extraction? stronger oil pump larger cooler maybe pulling more heat from the engine = hotter oil (not cooler)? Maybe that's not logical. I don't know but wonder what I'll see when it's 90 degrees out! BTW, I do believe the Jet-Hot Silver coating is making a difference in the right leg heat.  The following was just done as a comparison with a digital thermometer I have (pretty close).   Wonder what the next chicken I cook with that probe will taste like  --- 08Uly Uly Data Page  | ||
| Johnboy777 |
My temp (per EG's dipstick) has gone to 212deg. at the highest. | ||
| Chas1969 |
My o6' stays around 70-80c (160-177F) with highest air temp of 75F so far but running 75-80 mph up/down some nice mountain areas. ? on the 08 oil cooler .... I thought it was to cool more? Chas | ||
| 08uly |
Yeah, not sure if my logic is correct but since it's a dry sump... does more heat in the oil = less heat in the engine? the heat has to go somewhere. Once the engine stops & the bikes not moving the oil cooler has no effect. I wonder what my temps are while underway. --- 08Uly Uly Data Page | ||
| Chas1969 |
The temps you have just after stopping the bike (almost) 220F is pretty hot. Synth oil could be a insurance policy for these temps. I thought 08 run rich (=cool)? The bike is partially cooled by the oil circulating through the cooler, but with the 8 row coolers the 08 have and the pre-08' press clips saying they would be "cooled better". I was suprised by your numbers. I have herd 06-07's going upto 100C (212F) mine so far 80C (176F) and pretty fast long runs up and down hills, only I need some 90+F air temps to see what the oil temp could go upto? Chas (Message edited by chas1969 on May 07, 2008) | ||
| Debueller |
I got you all beat by a long shot........ Last weekend I rode my Uly up Chelan mountain in E Washington. It is a long, slow speed, STEEP gravel road, and my bike was loaded with full camping gear. When I got to the top, I looked at my EG temp dipstick, I thought it had quit working because it read just over 0 degrees, and I knew that was not right. As we took a break, and enjoyed the view of the Columbia river and Lake Chelan, I noticed the needle traveling DOWN towards 220 degrees.......the needle was on it's second lap around the gauge!!! My bike now has 4000 miles, and after that, and the 7 mile run at over 100mph the next day, I'm sure it is fully broke-in.  time to go to Syn 3....... I clicked a photo of the gauge, and will post it in a couple of days when I get home...... | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
08ULY, I run Mobil 1 15W50 automotive oil. Mine's an 06'. The highest I've read is 205 F and that's after running hard on the interstate at about 70 to 80 mph with the outside temp close to 80 F. I'm using the exact same style dipstick as the one I sent you. Are you using one of those heat blankets under your seat?, ( I don't use one). How about a RSS which I don't have. I remember reading where the 08' oil cooler was designed to keep the oil at about 180 F ( maybe wishful hype ). Keep us posted on your temps. If your temps keep banging up against max on the temp dipstick after changing to syn oil then I'm willing to help fix that situation. To be absolutely honest with you, my oil has a hard time getting up to 200 F unless I go out and really ring it out for quite a while. Maybe the changes to the 08' engine creates more heat by working the oil much harder and maybe that is part of the lower mpg you guys are reporting. Also, doesn't the temp sensor on the rear cylinder kick the fan on at higher temps?? If you are interested, I've searched up a couple of Heat Management links that show photo's of how I've set up my bike. Works for me and very cheaply done. It flows air through the space under the seat instead of trapping it. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/295156.html http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/295832.html?1185547969 | ||
| Thunderbox |
Well it looks like everyones oil is doing a great job. Oil temps of 220F are quite normal even in liquid cooled engines. I would say anywhere from 200 to 240 in a Buell engine is fine. I wouldn't worry about it unless it gets above 270F | ||
| Jlnance |
Yeah, not sure if my logic is correct but since it's a dry sump... does more heat in the oil = less heat in the engine? Technically yes, but... Heat is not the same thing as temperature. They are related (sort of like torque and horse power are related.) So moving the oil out of the engine and into the swing arm does move heat out of the engine. But it does not, in itself, lower the temperature of the engine. | ||
| Ftd |
I rode with the Buell club out of Lakeland Sat. Spirited riding with temperature into the mid 80's. My '06 ULY with RSS, Direct Link ECM, etc. (see profile) and ~13500 miles saw oil (Mobil V-Twin 20W-50) temperatures 160-180 F. I have yet to crack the 200 F barrier but got close once when stuck in traffic for a prolong period. YMMV Frank | ||
| 08uly |
After a spirited 10 mile run after work (4 - 6k, 2nd & 3rd gear) paused part way to check the temp. 190~200 then back home thru some traffic and it's up to 219 after shutdown. I suspect that it's lower while underway. As Thunderbox says, looking around at the temps from other HD V-Twins shows these temps are quite normal. --- 08Uly Uly Data Page | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Debueller, Can you do me a favor and check to see if it is still in calibration after going through 220 and hitting 0 F. Put in rapidly boiling water and see if it goes to 212 F. I'm just curious if going all the way around and then hitting zero is maybe around 250 F on that Taylor thermometer. Bimetal thermometers are nothing more than a wound piece of metal in the stem that tightens and loosens depending on temp and that is what directly moves the needle around the analog scale. | ||
| Chas1969 |
My oil dip-stick temp meter is a aftermarket (german) orginally for Yamaha XT600 and the start of the "red zone" is at 120 C or 248 F. The XT600 is air-cooled also so not a bad comparsion for how hot might be 'bad'. I did so research and 210-220 is fine. Chas | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
I did a study using a digital, an analog Taylor, and an analog CDN. Most of you that bought an EG Temp Dipstick have the analog Taylor except for 08Uly who has the analog CDN. The Digital reads all the way to 302 degrees F. The analogs are scaled to 220 degrees F but will read further if you interpolate per my experiment. I poured cooking oil into a small fruit cocktail can and then placed that can in a cooking pan ( for safety sake with a fire extinguisher handy just in case )and then turned on the electric stove to high. I brought the oil to 300 F by checking with the digital dipstick and then turned off the heat source. First the Taylor vs digital data: 276 F digital = 10 F Taylor 242 F digital = dead center between 0 and 220 F Taylor Remember that anything over 220 F on the Taylor goes on towards "0" and even past as seen when the oil temp was 276 F and the Taylor went past 220 F and all the way to 10 F again. So when Debueller went past 220 all the way to just past "0" his oil must of been a bit over 260 F which is pretty smoking hot considering that is being read in the swingarm. Now the CDN vs Digital data: 269 F digital = 33 F on CDN 239 F digital = 0 F on CDN Remember when the oil is over 220 F then the CDN ( and the Taylor unit )just keeps going as if it is beginning to take its second trip around the gauge. The nice thing to report is that calibration was checked after all this and both the Taylor and the CDN still read 212 F in rapidly boiling water. Going past 220 doesn't seem to bother either of these bimetal temp gauges. I did find a bimetal unit that reads from zero to 250 F but they want $100 for it. http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/product_view.asp ?sku=9055041 I'll gladly make one using that gauge but would have to have the money up front since I wouldn't want to get stuck with that expense. It would be neat though and would be threaded into the ULY dipstick. I can get a CDN analog unit that reads that reads from 100 F to 400 F in 5 degree increments for $13. The Taylor and CDN units I have shipped you guys read in 2 degree increments. I hope you find this info useful. | ||
| Blake |
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| Electraglider_1997 |
If you go back and do a search I explained exactly how to make these things and believe a few actually did. Other's asked me to make them one and I have made a total of 11 of them. I'm now living in the mansion on the hill ... not. I understand BadWeb's position on this and will not key another letter in regards to the so called EG temp dipstick. | ||
| Blake |
It's absolutely not an issue if you are just providing them at cost or talking about your own custom work. It's only a problem when someone is selling new products for a profit, it doesn't matter how many. Thanks for understanding. Last thing we want to do is squelch interesting discussion on home-brew creations. | ||
| 08uly |
EG was clear in his emails to me that this was done at cost  Thanks EG for a great mod! --- 08Uly Uly Data Page | ||
| Debueller |
Hey EG, Here is a photo of my temp gauge at the top of Chelan Mtn last weekend. Sorry about the bad photo, but you can barley see that it reads about 0 degrees. I guess that is acually about 250 degrees?  | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Degrueller, I'm thinking about 265 F if it were right at the "0" mark. | ||
| Treadmarks |
I'm still digging mine. 190-200 is the norm, and that is without my forced air oil cooler mod in place. |
