| Author | Message | ||
     V_thunder |
Each to his own hey, but I think they are just plain horrible. +1 big-time! I have a Streetglide for wind blockage. Still no Uly yet, test drives today in Syracuse, hope they have an 08' X for demos. It is the first WARM weekend for us Upstate New Yorkers and much deserved (possible 80 degrees today!) (Message edited by v_thunder on April 19, 2008) | ||
| Gsilvernale |
More adjustments to the Wind Screen today. I have the standard Buell and tall screen and the Palmer brackets. I have tried all 9 possible positions with both the tall and short windscreens. I finally settled on the short screen with the brackets all the way down and in. I get good clean airflow around the helmet - no buffeting, and it moves most of the air up off my shoulders and torso. If I go one notch up and 1 out (middle height, middle in/out). Then that is the second best position. Slight noise increase, but more protection. Everything else was no where near as good. Note that with the Palmer brackets, each position is about 3/4 of an inch. And I have found that it can make a big difference. There are so many variables in play that sometimes when you change it one spot, you get significant differences. And what logically seems like should be better, can turn out to be worse. If I am going to have to ride to Alaska or some other 3000+ mile trip, then I will put the tall screen on with the brackets. I get more buffeting, but hardly any wind hits my body. If anybody in Charleston/Summerville SC wants to try out the Buell tall windshield, let me know, since it's just sitting in the garage. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>I get more buffeting, but hardly any wind hits my body. << Ah ha! That's my problem - Wind hitting my body doesn't bother me at all - I enjoy it - part of the sensation of riding that I never want to eliminate. Any buffeting at all really gives me the sh*ts. The only screens I like are the power blades on the big tourers that you can adjust to suit crosswind, headwind and speed. Otherwise I remove them entirely. | ||
| Gsilvernale |
It's not the wind on my body that bothers me. Its the eternal pullup that I was doing. If my body was canted forward about 10 degrees, then it would not be an issue. Maybe I should adjust my bars forward to put me into more of a sportbike lean... | ||
| Danger_dave |
Or get some lower ones maybe. Top notch aerodynaic gear and hat help too. | ||
| Danger_dave |
And also don't forget to move to somewhere with a nice climate. | ||
| Sanjuro |
I'll try the bracket with the stock shield option. I even like the looks of it, http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17 7652&page=4 Question: Suggestions on where to buy the brackets? | ||
| Gsilvernale |
Brackets are made by a guy in England. His handle on BadWeb is Strada. | ||
| Galloper |
I have the palmer brackets on the bike for more than a 1000mls and I am still very pleased. Together with the vario modification it does the trick for me However we are all different so what I like might be hated by some one else. @ Sanjuro: thats my bike  Strada (Iain Palmer) is the one to contact. (Message edited by galloper on April 20, 2008) | ||
| Natron |
My motto about a windshield is "if it is gonna look stupid it had better work well". Having seen the windshield in question, I will admit that it does look ...... like it would work well. I could have used something like that on the run home today. | ||
| Etennuly |
I can leave out for a ride at 38F in the rain and still have permagrin  . | ||
| Muppet |
I have tried all 9 possible positions with both the tall and short windscreens. I finally settled on the short screen with the brackets all the way down and in. I get good clean airflow around the helmet - no buffeting, and it moves most of the air up off my shoulders and torso. +1 here - I have just come back from my annual blast around the Scottish Highlands and tried all the positions. For prolonged motorway use highest position in lowest (raked back) setting suits me best but for the normal roads then lowest/lowest is very good, just like yourself. That's with the Zero Gravity +3" screen, but I know Ian (Strada) has the tall Buell screen which has a slight lip on it which may give better protection still. To be honest, I've yet to ride a motorcycle with the perfect screen setup. Even some of the well established tourers (Honda Pan and BMW K12GT) leave me unimpressed. On different settings I get either buffeting or negative wind pressure forcing as much weight onto my wrists at speed as I'd have to bear on a full on sports bike. I can put up with wind as long as it's clean wind. If I need to ease the pressure a bit on the Uly I just put my feet on the back pegs, lean forward slightly and crank it up to about 100mph and it's all nicely balanced. | ||
| Jphish |
Howdy Muppet - Thanks for the beta testing on screen position. I'm assuming you're refering to Strada's Palmer brackets as to settings ? Just ordered a set before he departed for a week of ultra violet abuse in Espan'a. For the 99$ US, he politely declined to send the Alpha with the brackets. I have the ZG+4 and plan to use the brackets instead of going with a Parabellum if I can dial in the right settings. Not to get too personal - but whats your height ? I'm vertically challenged @ 5'8". So all the way up & tilted all the way back toward the rider is the best setting for you ? I'll start there and contemplate the results. Still snowing here in Olympia Wa. - apparently global warming aint happening everywhere. The highlands must be experiencing spring ? Beautiful country ! Warm Regards, John | ||
| Muppet |
> @ Jphish Hi John. Got your message today, the screen is fine using the standard fittings to the flyscreen that Strada supplies (bolts instead of rubber mounts). There is some vibration at higher speeds (+80mph) when it's raked forward but it's not too apparent when raked back, as I tend to have it mostly. Certainly doesn't need any further bracing whatever position you have it in. I'm the same height as you so you might find my settings good for you but if you ride at lower speeds on the highway there (I cruise at 80+mph where I can) you may find the screen raked forwards more is better. I started to get a bit of turbulence over 60 - 70mph so went with the raked back setting to clean up the air round my helmet. All this is with my ZG (I think it's +3 but may be like yours, +4"  screen. The Highlands were fantastic! While the rest of the UK from the North of England downwards bathed in glorious cloud and rain, we had to endure spring temps of 13 - 15 degrees C, unbroken blue skies and near empty roads. Trust me, for Scotland that is a major event. Didn't take any pics, I was purely there for the riding, but I'll post a link to the guys who did when they get theirs posted up. Cheers Clive | ||
| Tomtower |
How can I order the Palmer Strada brackets?Web site?  | ||
| Galloper |
@ Tomtower: You can contact Strada by PM: Click here | ||
| Jphish |
Howdy Clive - Hey! - thanks for the informative & much appreciated response. That saves me from having to try all 9 adjustment possibilities - I'll start high & back and work my way down. Hard to ride much above 75mph on the 'slab' in western Wa. too many troopers lurking around - glad they're there...except when I'm on the Uly or ST. (Havent ridden the ST much since I got the Uly - has it's attributes, but just not as fun. It's my "spare" bike for when the rear bearings go out on the XBX)The back roads around here are good for the occassional burst to 80+...except when the 9 million deer are grazing the roadside. Though on Hwy 50 in Nevada last year, never was UNDER 80. My brother was CHP & enforced the laws for 30 years - now that he's retired, cant hardly keep up with his disobeyance of 'em. He's a friggin outlaw & turned to the dark side. Fun!! Let you know how the bracket adjustment goes. Thanks for help pal, John | ||
| Strada |
Guys, sorry for not chiming in( been away abusing my liver and skin in Spain!!) and many thanks for all the positive comments. If you are interested in my windshield kit, I am offering it to forum members for £47.50 for UK riders, £49.50 for Europe and $99 for the US (hopefully helps with the bad exchange rate at the moment). This includes postage and the small tool kit. I take Paypal so please email if you are interested. I've got quite a good gallery of customer bikes now so I'll post a few when I get a chance and recover from sleep depravation! Regards Iain | ||
| Jphish |
Welcome back Iain - Though one could argue being back from holiday isnt always welcome. Wishing your skin, liver & all the other other organs a speedy recovery. J | ||
| Jphish |
Hey Muppet - Using your formula of all the way up and back, took the Uly for a test ride this AM with the brackets installed. HUGE difference...& clearly in a positive direction. Smooth up to 65, Some buffeting around the mid chest @ 70+, but eminently tolerable. Hopped on the ST right after for comparison - with the electric windshield in the all the way down position, it's a little better protection due to the wider screen - but frankly doesnt track as well and you get more wallow from the big rigs. Still like the ST - very refined & lots to be said for it's capabilities - but the Uly...well what can ya say...it's a Uly. Unless ya ride one, you'll just never know. Thanks for the setup tips - works for me. Enjoy the highlands! j | ||
| Muppet |
Jp - don't thank me, thank Iain (Strada) for making the thing in the first place! I'm just a happy customer pleased to pass on my findings about a great product. Highlands were great, but they were just a warm-up for my first European tour of the year - The Pyrenees. 3 weeks to go then it's kiss goodbye to another set of tyres.  | ||
| Strada |
Guys, I can't thank you enough for all the positive feedback on the Windshield kit. I know alot of people will doubt it's effectiveness and being adjustable, It really is a big help when people share their experiences and what settings work for them - we all want different things and have different riding styles and helmets designs, etc, and as stated before, small changes have a big effect. It is very satisfying for me knowing my kits are on bikes touring all over the place and making the trip more pleasurable. I am hoping to set up a dedicated website soon and would appreciate any photos on your travels for the gallery. Just as a side-note, I also track my fuel economy and it seemed to have a reasonable improvement after fitting the kit but not sure if that's just 'cos the engines bedding in? Normally I would get about 130 miles before the light came on, now it's around the 145 mark. Again, if anyone else has noticed this, would be nice to know. Cheers for now Iain | ||
| Galloper |
Don't worry, I'll be in the Ardennes again soon. or Madagascar  Picture (Message edited by Galloper on April 27, 2008) | ||
| Longdog_cymru |
I have had the Strada brackets fitted for a while now. The come with 2 Allen keys and a combination spanner too!!! To be honest, I fitted them and didn't really like the look, (although they are really well made and finished!). Anyhow, I thought as I'd fitted them, I thought I'd try them out. They are staying!!!!! They work!!!!! Standard screen, middle height setting and furthest forward for angle, they have taken the wind off my torso and my head is still in "clean" air. No buffeting, not much noise either. For the record, I am 6'2" with 34@ inseam. | ||
| Jphish |
Yep Clive - It's Guys like Iain that perceive a problem & then apply their skills to actually do something about a solution, which we all benefit from. Thanks Iain! I think Buell ought to make the brackets available thru their aftermarket parts network - makes the Uly an infinitely more comfortable touring/adventure machine. Will be testing mine soon in the Yukon & Alaska. Have a carefree adventure on your Pyrenees trip. Strada - will send you pics when I return in early July. Be safe guys, warm regards, j | ||
| Sanjuro |
Alright, Ian, I think I'd like one. PM sent your way. Let me know how to order one. I like the looks of it as well - and from what I hear, it's a good investment. I'll try to follow up with picts and a review after the install. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Best screen I ever found for my Uly is right here. No buffeting at all at any speed or the feeling of being ripped off the handle bars above 60MPH.   | ||
| Strada |
Cheers for all the kind words and really looking forward to some trip reports and photos!! Don't forget that I also make a few other parts including Handguard Extensions and Mudguards, etc..... If you search ebay you'll see all the details but I will do a better deal for forum members. Cheers for now iain | ||
| Dynasport |
Glad the MS is working out for you. My lurking on the MS forums left me with the impression that many MS owners have problems with buffeting on the MS with the stock screen. | ||
| Sanjuro |
Strada, I've found your listings on Ebay and I'm tempted. I do have a question though: Sorry for putting you on the spot here but what kind of discount were you thinking for us forum members? |
