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08uly
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I created a separate web page for this to make it easier to maintain for those that want to keep it going.

Use & Bookmark this Link



We are getting really lopsided results here. It would be great if more 2006 & 2007 owners would fill in the form. As it stands it's not a fair comparison. Please post your data (best & worst) so we can see a fair comparison. At this point there is really not enough data to do a fair comparison.

With only three 2007 tanks and not much more 2006 data it is an unfair comparison. I know it feels good to post the best of the best but for the sake of a fair comparison please post your worst tanks too.

Thanks


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Uly MPG Form

See the data


Following the fuel economy thread I think it would be useful or at least interesting to collect some real data so we can all compare the numbers.

If you want to add your data just click the link above and add your numbers. I have it sorted by model year so we can get a better idea of what is going on based on model year. The more people that add data the better (more accurate) it will be.

I'll post the results back to this thread or create a separate page to post the results. Hopefully we can all benefit from the info.

Thanks,
08Uly

(Message edited by 08Uly on April 25, 2008)
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08uly
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Backroad is that 3.82 gallons?
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Backroad_hog
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, that is 3.82 not 38.2
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

08uly,
Maybe you should put a column in the Goog spreadsheet for those of us using Gasohol.
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08uly
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

jflaig, is that one entry or two? (185, 3.12)
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Atoms
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If we had a 38 gallon tank we'd finally know how those "I usually need to pee before I run out of gas anyway" guys feel.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I feel guilty . .. 20 years of riding Buells and I'm not sure I ever kept track of mileage.

What do you do with it?

Does it vary with the onset of mechanical problems?

I meant to when I bought my new car but it kinda fizzled out cause the more I looked at the data the more I realized it was always pretty much what was expected and since you don't buy a Ford F-150 for fuel mileage I guess I wasn't sure I wanted to know.

I DID . . when I was doing tons of long distance testing. . . ALWAYS know precisely how far I could go on a full tank of fuel. I used to keep a chart atop the tank bag so I'd plan my stops without wasting time.

Be interesting to see the comparisons among bikes. I realize that unless the bikes are opearted in the same geographic area (there are varying fuel mixes sold all over the USA) and in about the same atmospheric conditions that there is only a very loose correlation.

It would be interesting, if you could get a couple hundred samples, to come up with an average my year.

Fun stuff.
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Backroad_hog
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"what's mileage got to do with it"
I am usuing this to justify my purchase of my Uly....
Car mileage 28
Uly mileage 44
1 way RT $ per Gal monthly saving
79 158 $3.69 $151.43
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did that calculation as well.

Don't let the wife see the figures where you factor in tires ; ).

(though with gas at $3.50 a gallon, the math is working again)
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Bigkuri
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good idea. I've entered the initial readings I have at home - so for just the first 2k miles. Will put in the others soon when I get them from work.

Will be interesting all right. I wondering if some ECM Spy tuning will help - the next task on my list (next month....)

08 Uly, 4,200 miles
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M_singer
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Backroad_hog I bet that if you do a total cost per mile comparison between your 28 mpg car and the Uly that you will find that the car costs less to run per mile.

Tires and maintenance costs are generally higher on bikes then cars. By the time your car needs its first tune up the Buell would be on its 10th.
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08uly
Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bigkuri, are those Imp. Gallons?

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Peregrine
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is disconcerting. I've just purchased a blue (!!) 08 Uly and was really looking forward to the mileage that Ulysses owners have been raving about. (As well as becoming part of the community! Hey yu'all) 50 MPG is awesome, and those who actually get it without piddling around around at 55 are lucky.

Generally speaking, 37 MPG for a two cylinder motor that puts 80 HP to the ground barely makes it in my book, notwithstanding the general inefficiency of internal combustion motors. But for what should be a more efficient and newer motor to get 12 MPG LESS than its two year older brother - with no notable gain in power output - just doesn't make sense.

Could it be that as the odometers on our '08's climb so will the mileage? Seems that these bikes run better the more miles they have.

Or is there some quirk in the new (improved?) fuel delivery and timing system? The '08's don't appear any more powerful then their predecessors.

... or maybe the increasing use of corn and grain for fuel instead of sweet crude is the culprit. Anyone have any hard substantiation for this?

(Message edited by Peregrine on April 23, 2008)

(Message edited by Peregrine on April 23, 2008)
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Olenuf2nobetter
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad to see this thread. I've got about 3300 miles on my '08, and I've seen slow, slight improvement, but never better than today: 2.525 gallons in 90.4 mostly interstate miles = 35.8 mpg. Things got a little better when I learned to keep the revs up (what's 5th gear for?), but my Road King does 7-9 mpg better -- what's up with that?
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Peregrine
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 03:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeeze, the 08's average mileage figure has dropped by 3 mpg just in the last hour to 34 MPG! meanwhile the '06 is pushing 50

Kind of wish that my lousy Uly's mileage was the exception rather than the rule.

BTW, great job on the spreadsheet Uly08. Anyone wanna trade a new '08 for a used '06?

... NOT!
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Dick_stilton
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting threat guys. However, personaly I never worry about MPGs or even the cost of gas as my wife pays the bills. I am what you may call a 'Kept Man' life can be hard!
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Bigkuri
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Added rest of them. They are all US gallons so no conversion needed.
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Hotredjohn
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My gas mileage has varied from a low of about 40 mpg to 60 mpg. This depends on my riding scenario. If I am doing highway miles with an average speed over 70 the mileage sucks. However on a trip riding the Blue Ridge Parkway (460 miles) I go over 60 mpg (the average speed was around 50 mph).

Remember that old caveat "Your mileage may vary".
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Peregrine
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

60 MPG? Are you kidding me? Wait, you've stuffed a sock in one of your cylinders haven't you?

It's not the price that one pays for more gas to go the same - or even less - distance that's the bummer with this information on the '08's seemingly poor relative mileage, but rather the idea that a newer and better engineered bike has somehow actually taken a step backwards from the '06's and '07's in a pretty important way.

Not looking for a swiss watch to ride, but I like the idea that the machine I'm riding is a precision one and working to the best of its ability.

The Uly's V Twin motor should do a better and better job converting every last milliliter of fuel into kinetic forward motion, not just more heat.
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Msparks
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 06 with about 2500 miles on it. Last 3 tanks have been 49 mpg. I'm yet to get my first oil change and I'm sure it's not broken in. Plus I know I was running winter grade fuel. So I fully expect to see 50+ this summer.
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Cdale136
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I had read this thread before picking up my 08 I would have bought an 07. That fact that this bike holds under 5 gallons worried me as far as touring goes. I figured the 45 - 50 MPG would make up for it. 35 MPG is unacceptable. I bought this bike for commuting and a two week trip out west this year. The guys I'm riding with hold 5 gallons and get 45+ mpg. I'm going to be pulling everyone over 60 miles early to fill-up. Looks like I might have to pick up some luggage for the V-rod. It gets 36 and holds 5 gallons

This is the same engine at the 06s and 07s. There is no way it should be getting this poor gas mileage. Has anyone talked to Buell? Maybe a simple re-map could fix this?

(Message edited by cdale136 on April 23, 2008)
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Ftd
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do the 2008 R's, S's get less MPG than their 2006/2007 counterparts??
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know about holding your breath for a better mileage after break in on these new bikes. My '06 did the same mileage out of the box as it does now. I have heard of some doing so though.

Mine has 26,000 miles on it and hasn't had a TPS reset since 10,000. The timing is as the factory set it. Original exhaust, ECM, air filter, only mod is drilling the air box, and I use by the book(mostly) normal maintenance scheduling.

I have found that if I really want this bike to come to life and really spark, I take it out on some back roads and run it really hard for a least ten miles. Hard pulls and red line shifts, keeping it above 4000 rpm. It is amazing how much livelier it becomes for a week or two of commuting.
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Cdale136
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell's web site has the same gas mileage ratings for the 07 and 08 X.

Highway 64

Urban 51

The 08 XT drops to:

Highway 59

Urban 47

Maybe this is due to the wind resistance of the bags?

(Message edited by cdale136 on April 23, 2008)

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08uly
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We are getting really lopsided results here. It would be great if more 2006 & 2007 owners would fill in the form. As it stands it's not a fair comparison. Please post your data (best & worst) so we can see a fair comparison. At this point there is really not enough data to do a fair comparison.

With only three 2007 tanks and not much more 2006 data it is an unfair comparison. I know it feels good to post the best of the best but for the sake of a fair comparison please post your worst tanks too.

Thanks

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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Because I don't have my 06 Uly anymore, I only posted my lifetime average over the bike. Filling up about 200 miles with roughly 3.6 gallons for 55.5mpg. My Lightning is getting a tad less, but obviously i am not including it. Don't know if it should be added to the comments thing, but my bike had the Race ECM.
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08uly
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks froggy, every bit helps. Just looking for more data to help us compare.

Do you have any recollection of what your worst tanks were like on the '06 Uly?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, my worst tank ever was at Buelltoberfest last fall. 130 miles when the light came on! I don't remember the exact amount of gas I put in it, but the light almost always kicked on right at 3.6 and I would fill up asap. It takes lots of gas to keep up with those southern bastards, most specifically that Fat one : )
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Stevem123
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This data will still be fairly subjective because conditions, riding style, and altitude all play factors.

In my case: early 06 Uly with race can, race air filter, modded air-box and race ECM. Best case I get 48-50 MPG running flat hwy at 70 and worst case I get 38-42 running hard through the hills and twisties. I always have all the bags on too.
Soooo what would you have me put on the form? Best, worst, average?

BC Steve
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08uly
Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Steve, thanks for posting.

I'd put it all down, just looking for the raw data. Best, Worst and everything in between. The sheet will do the averaging.

The spreadsheet is not limited to one entry per user so if you have the time and the inclination then each time you fill up, add the data : )

Thanks,
David


(Message edited by 08Uly on April 23, 2008)
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