| Author | Message | ||
     Towjam |
Sanity check... Any ideas why Buell designed the acc socket so that you have to have the kill switch in the "run" position for the sockets to be live? I went to use my air pump this morning and I thought simply having the ignition key in the "park" or "on" position would enable the sockets. Instead, the sockets weren't enabled until I set the kill switch to "run" and by doing so, fired up the fuel pump, etc. Seems like this design puts unnecessary load on the battery. Or am I missing something? | ||
| Ratbuell |
Keeps the battery from being discharged accidentally by leaving stuff plugged in. That's all I can think of. | ||
| Tipsymcstagger |
I noticed this exact same thing about twelve seconds after sitting on my Uly for the very first time (last Thursday). I did a fly-n-ride and brought my Garmin 2610 along with the speaker/automobile cigarette adapter. I did a quick Ram ball install, got on the saddle, turned the key to "on" and for a quick minute thought I'd be riding home w/o the aid of GPS because nothing was being displayed. As soon as I flipped the kill switch to run, the GPS fired up. I plan to install an auxiliary fuse box under the seat and might rewire the dash accessory jack to be hot all of the time. Tipsy | ||
| Towjam |
Keeps the battery from being discharged accidentally by leaving stuff plugged in. That's all I can think of. But assuming that someone would normally turn the ignition key to the "off" position, this wouldn't be a problem since that would turn off the acc socket. (Of course, you know what they say about assumptions...) I've owned a number of bikes with factory acc sockets and all of them would work without having to enable the fueling system. | ||
| Stevem123 |
I'll have to confirm but if memory serves me correctly mine are energised with the keyswitch in park regardless of the run switch position. I charged my cell phone one night while camping and didn't worry much about it because only the tail light was on and since it is LED it doesn't pull much current to drain the battery. My bike is and early 06 model so maybe there was a change? BC Steve | ||
| Ulendo |
maybe to encourage owners to have the bike is running, and charging when using a high drain device? | ||
| Froggy |
My 06 uly outlets worked as long as the key was on or in park, regardless of the kill switch | ||
| Towjam |
Well, this is disconcerting. The manual is very clear that the acc sockets should work with the key in the "park" position. However, neither one of my sockets work unless the engine is actually running. They don't appear to be live even if the run switch is set to "on" but the engine hasn't been started. I'm going to give the dealer a call tomorrow and see if they find out if this is something that's been changed during the model year - but I'm not holding my breath they're going to know - or even bother to check with Buell on.  I'd like to hear from any other XT owners if they're seeing the same behavior. | ||
| Towjam |
However, neither one of my sockets work unless the engine is actually running My bad. As it turns out, the engine doesn't have to be running - the run switch just needs to be "run" and the key in the "on" position. What was throwing me was that the sockets aren't enabled until the fuel pump has cycled. It was this delay which made me think that the engine had to be running (and yes, I didn't think that made sense). But it does still appear that the acc socket behavior has changed since the '08 manuals were originally published. Either that or my XT is possessed by the devil. | ||
| Tipsymcstagger |
I haven't paid close enough attention the fuel pump cycle, but my non-XT '08 Uly's sockets are definitely only powered when the run switch is selected to "run." Kind of a stupid design if you ask me. Not very effective if your plan is to recharge your phone while your toasting marshmallows around the camp fire. Tipsy | ||
| Towjam |
Not very effective if your plan is to recharge your phone while your toasting marshmallows around the camp fire. Who needs a campfire? Plug your phone in, fire up the engine and sit your marshmallows next to your right thigh.  Damn... sometimes I even amaze myself.  | ||
| Stevem123 |
MMmmmm......Headermellows! Well it sounds like a change has been made or the factory made an engineering oops. I verified and my early 06 outlets are energized either in park or run regardless of the kill switch. BC Steve | ||
| Rays |
+1 - my early '06 also has the outlets energised in park or run regardless of the kill switch. | ||
| Court |
The 2008 Electrical Diagnostics Manual will detail the workings of the circuit. I suspect (pure wild guess) that a change was prompted either by regulatory dictum or in response to dead batteries as a result of the circuit being hot with the bike off. I like'em on as well. . . . I like to choose . . . . but I think that all of them in the family cars are now rigged to be off when the ignition is off. |
