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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't know if this has been done in a single thread yet, but I'm searching for a good screen for my Uly. '06, tall seat, 6'4" rider.

Stock screen - clean air but a strong push against my body, makes me hold on too tight (slowing down is too easy, lol).

Buell tall screen - takes away the push, adds turbulence noise unless I sit waaay up to get my head above the wave.

I know lots of folks run the zero gravity; cee bailey also has a nice one. Any input?

Anyone use this one:
http://www.bikescreen.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Buel lUlyssesXB12X26

I run their +2 on my S2 in the winter and love it, good quality and excellent fit and finish.

Anybody have any other sources? Ideas?
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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the ZG +4 and like it very much (although the pins don't seem to hold it very well), however, I'd like to have a wider screen and was thinking that a Parabellum +4 (which is wider than the ZG) might do the trick. Their mounting sys. mounts to the handlebars, as well as to the fly via pins.

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Iugradmark
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are a couple of threads about brackets that both raise and change the angle of the shield if you do a search. I think because everyone is built different, the best solution has to address many variables and the brackets attempt to do this. I wish we had more feedback now that folks are starting to run with these.
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Gamdh
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Larger Parabellum's have extra support



He also has smaller sizes (smaller being relative to his large ones). The smaller ones do not use the extra brace.

Also note that to clarify the mounting, they do not mount to the fly screen with the original 'Pins'.. you place a female T recepticle (thing) on the back side of the sceen through the existing holes and screw in all four monting points.



He used my bike for fitting etc.. I did several write up on them a while back.
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Gamdh
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is a side shot of one of the shorter ones

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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are a couple of threads about brackets that both raise and change the angle of the shield if you do a search. I think because everyone is built different, the best solution has to address many variables and the brackets attempt to do this. I wish we had more feedback now that folks are starting to run with these.

I have a pair of Strada's (Palmer Brackets) fitted and they work for me. I am 6'2" with 34" inseam and I was having to hang on at motorway speeds. I fitted Strada's brackets on the medium height/furthest forward setting and the windblast is just across my shoulders now providing easy 90mph cruising with my head in quiet air, i.e. no buffeting.
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Gotj
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is also the California Scientific wind screen that is wider than the Parabellum and made is several heights.
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Gsilvernale
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

longdog, what screen are you using?
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Sekalilgai
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am experimenting with this...stock shield, does clean the turbulence up for me (comes back at about 80 tho!)
Not much different from the front but altering the angle (as others have found) does move the turbulence/pressure spot.



More pics here:
http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii244/laugoo/An other%20bike/

Bits here if anyone is interested
http://www.wihatools.com/300seri/344maxi_flex_hose _3200.htm
add some fasteners, washers and screw caps from the local hardware shop....
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Hoon
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice job Sek,

Congrats on colour matching the whole chin spoiler and panels+bumpers on cases,I think it looks much better when these details are done-maybe a photoshop session is in order to see what it would look like with the beak (and possibly lower gaurd too although it may be overkill) painted too.

Good solution on the multi-positional screen adjusters too,I take it they stay where they're put at speed-no tools needed for a quick change of angle,clever.
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Sekalilgai
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hoon
Credit for the paintjob goes to Vern/Etenully who did a super job!

The mount is actually quite 'stiff' and adjustment is actually easier through addition/subtraction of the joints.
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Ulygirl
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had a Cee Bailey on my Uly for a short time...thought the head buffeting would cause a concussion! Switched to the California Scientific and have been riding ever since with a big smile on my face! Highly recommend the Cal Sci.
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Wrongway2
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am running this one from CalSci. I bought it used off of this page. I didn't much like the look until I tried it. I don't think I will ever use the stock one again. I am 6 ft., but long waisted so I sit about like a 6'2" person and it works great for me.

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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sekalilgai; Nice paint.I just had the bag inserts done, but the chin and bumpers look pretty nice. here's a shot of my Uly:




I'm working on a few more "Esthetic enhancements". Hopefully it will all be done by Homecoming.
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Sekalilgai
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty
That looks great, really I swiped my idea from Maximum and his red bike. I've a slab of Lexan that I just added as part of the experiment. A vintage Cee Baileys plus the MRA VTA wing is next.

FWIW on another bike I found I actually liked the short screen/VTA combination better than the taller (MRA) screen. Although cleaner, (appearance and air) it was louder (despite earplugs) and required that I looked "through" it all the time.

Madstad beta testers want to chime in?
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sekalilgai,
That Maxiflex stuff is just plastic articulated joints that you snap together. I've used the stuff for air blowing purposes and know that your windscreen would just fly off the first side gust it encountered. You must have something strung down the center of those joints. There is no way that will hold just using maxiflex. To take those joints apart, all you have to do is bend them past a certain point and they pop apart. To put them together, you just push them against each other until they pop together. Now, if you had a cable strung through them, then it would hold.
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Parabellum 28" (I'm about 6-2). I'm very pleased. Good wind coverage, minimal noise, minimal steering affect, easily see well over the top edge.

Their customer service is top-notch too.

Mark
in Arizona

(Message edited by mark_weiss on April 16, 2008)
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Luftkoph
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a ca.scientific,tall I'm 6', had it up to 115 on gps,with bags and top case fully loaded not any prob.

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Sekalilgai
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Electraglider
I had planned on 'safety wiring' the joints but test rode it around town first...and was a little surprised at how rigid the contraption was....after 240 boring superslab miles. A little insurance with a bit of nylon coated wire (hey probably could double as luggage straps) is the smart thing to do.

Truthfully, it is really not a permanent solution ...although the bug-antenna look kinda goes with the bug-eyes...things you do when it is miserably cold and wet outside...not today tho...so I am headed home to decarb and sprinkle some fresh dust on the Uly
Ken

(Message edited by sekalilgai on April 16, 2008)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I found my solution...at least judging by my short test ride to the gas station (yet another 41mpg tank!). I used the top edge of the standard windscreen as a shape-template, and cut the "lip" off the Buell tall windscreen. It's probably still 2.5" taller than stock, but without the lip there's no more turbulence noise than stock, and there's much less push on my body than with the stock screen. Time will tell...but for now, I'm pretty pleased. And...it didn't cost me any more money, LOL.
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

longdog, what screen are you using?

Hi Gsilvernale, I use the Strada, (Palmer) mounts with the standard screen.
Strada Mounts
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Sanjuro
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on original post. I took a 300 mi. tour recently. I walked away with the usual opinion - "perfect motorcycle" with one exception. I could use a little more wind protection, especially though the Columbia Gorge where it's very windy (wind-surfing cap. of the world). I'm leaning towards the ZG or Buell tall... I'd like to see more opinions on this one from other Uly owners.
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Smpl5
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is a good thread for me. I'm considering a laminar lip or a cal sci at this point. In searching this forum, I saw numerous posts praising the laminar lip.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I installed a dose of HTFU.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I installed a dose of HTFU.

Good on ya, Dave. As my friend Bill once said, "If I wanted a windshield, I wooda botta a cah." (He's from Boston, and has the accent.)

(Message edited by Crusty on April 18, 2008)
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Gsilvernale
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Buell Tall Windshield. It does not work for me. Even with the Palmer Strada brackets.

While it keeps the wind off the torso, I now get lots of buffeting/noise in the helmet.

I am currently trying the Palmer brackets with the standard windshield. I have it in the top center position, still room for improvement. I am going to drop it one notch and see how that helps.

I would try one of the other shields before the Buell shield. The little lip just adds too much turbulence for me (6'2").

And also the Palmer Brackets with the standard shield may be another way to go.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell tall with the lip cut off seems to be working well.

As for HTFU...riding 30k+ per year and riding all year round, I want my bikes to be right for me. I own cages...but I only use them to buy materials for home projects that don't fit on the bikes. If I'm in an empty cage, everything on 2 wheels is broken : )
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah just discussion but big Screens make the bike wrong for me.

Apart from the fact I just don't need one, I can't stand the noise they make, how they look and the way they feel.

It's like they add girth to the bike - then there is the adverse effect on the handling in crosswinds and stuff.

Each to his own hey, but I think they are just plain horrible.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have found that with my B.A.W., and any of the taller or larger windshields, they for the most part, do look stupid. That changes when the rider mounts up, they then look more "normal".

I am about to remove mine for the summer riding season as I like the air movement to cool me. It does work great for cold crappy weather though.

And if your windshield gets just big enough it cures all of the problems mentioned throughout this thread, buffeting, wind noise, air blast, bugs, tired shoulders and arms, rain protection, cold protection, etc(and it is really not affected by cross winds and traffic). The only thing it doesn't do is look sporty, which is a big factor in owning a Uly.

My motto about a windshield is "if it is gonna look stupid it had better work well".
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My motto about a windshield is "if it is gonna look stupid it had better work well".


Exactly!

Even I have to admit, the Uly is not the most...uhh..."traditional" looking motorcycle : ) But, the damn thing works like no other bike I've ridden so I've started to love the thing. A lot.
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