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Badcat
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey all.
it seems to me the that the manufacture date has little to do with the model year of the bike.
how do i tell what model year a Uly is?
i'm looking at a new one - manuf. date is Feb '07 - dealer say's it's an 08.
confused in new zealand.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

06 to 07 could be tough, but 08 is signifigantly different. The dead give away is the bottom end of the engine.

Side view of a 2008: http://www.bikewalls.com/wallpaper/Buell_Ulysses_X B12X/31841031/1024x768.html


Side view of a 2007:
http://www.bikewalls.com/wallpaper/Buell_Ulysses_X B12X/31364131/1024x768.html

Notice how the 07 has a round timing cover, while its a large oval on the 08.
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just look at the 10th digit in the vin
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Badcat
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks - it's an 07 then
i saw somewhere on the forum that either the '97 or '08 had better progressive fork springs - is there a list of the major changes from 06-07-08?
ken in nz
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

lol i should get this stickyed this, i must of posted this like 20 times:

"2006 was the first year

2007 has a lower seat, different inner air box, different front fork
springs, different oil pump drive gear, Pirelli Scorpion Sync tires
and a few other little things

2008 brings in a new motor, new fuel injection system, bigger oil
cooler, different front forks to decrease turning radius, heated
grips, heat deflectors under the seat, new accessory system under the
flyscreen, new colors, and a few other small changes."
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Badcat
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks froggy - that's perfect, i really appreciate it.

ken
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do any of those changes carry over to the 08 TT? (yes yes I know this is the uly forum) besides the engine? What about the turning radius?
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

different oil pump drive gear (2007)

new accessory system under the
flyscreen
(2008)

Huh?

(Message edited by xbimmer on April 10, 2008)
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08uly
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The changes for 2008

2008 Buell Ulysses XB12X highlights

New DDFI 3 Electronic Fuel Injection ECM
New eight-row oil cooler with Jiffy-tite fittings
New 74-degree steering sweep
New offset triple clamps
New fully adjustable 47 mm Showa inverted fork
New heated hand grips
New Instrument Panel Graphics
New Thrust Blue body work
Commemorative Buell 25th Anniversary badge

For 2008, the following changes have been made to both the Thunderstorm 1203 and the Thunderstorm 984:
New Timing System
• The timer cover is eliminated, as the engine is now crank timed from a new crank position sensor, which eliminates the need for manual timing, reducing maintenance costs. The ECM actively monitors and adjusts timing based on driving environment. The new sensor makes 30 reads per revolution, compared to the previous two reads per revolution, for more precise control of fuel mapping and timing to conditions.

More Robust Crankpins
• The size of the crankpins is increased to 1.50 inches from 1.25 inches.

Oiling System Upgraded
• A higher-output oil pump supports oiling to the new crankpin area. The new pump is driven off of the crank, a design based on the Buell XBRR production racing motorcycle.
• A new eight-row oil cooler offers enhanced cooling performance.
• All oil line ends are now equipped with Jiffy-tite fittings.

New DDFI 3 ECM (Engine Control Module)
• A new ECM with increased computing capacity.
• DDFI 3 actively controls and monitors the TPS (throttle position sensor), IAC (idle air control), and timing. DDFI 3 automatically zeros the TPS and adjusts fuel metering for smoother idle, eliminating service intervals and reducing the cost of ownership.
• A new progressive throttle cam and new throttle cables provide smoother throttle input from stops, and less rotation to full throttle.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 05:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

different oil pump drive gear (2007)

It's actually a slightly different oil pump with increased scavenging capacity.

The 06 Ulys included the new bronze oil pump drive gear added to all other XB's that year. 07's added slightly improved oil pump. 08's added completely new oil pump arrangement eliminating the gear altogether.
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Chas1969
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

easiest way to tell: Right side engine-

Round projection below pipes (w/ timing cover)- 06' or 07'
Flat - 08'

Chas
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