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Ulyganfreedom
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alright,
So, like many Buell fans, I don't live anywhere near a Buell dealership (300 miles) and it is time to tackle the 10k service. I have a manual and a little bit of mechanical where-with-all, but I'm not a "mechanic" by any means.
Do ya'll have any tips on doing this service?
Also, thinking of switching oil and tranny fluid to the Harley Syn3 oil.
Thanks in advance!
Tom
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Ulyganfreedom
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anyone?
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Kuuud
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gyou've got the manual, all you need is some good tolls and a little patience the first time. Follow all the steps in the book, take shortcuts AFTER you first learn the book way.
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New12r
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also, thinking of switching oil and tranny fluid to the Harley Syn3 oil.

Put Formula + in the trans, that is what is SUPPOSED TO BE in there.

The fork oil may be tough for you, but that is the hardest part.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You need a tool to compress the fork spring; they can be purchased (I made my own years ago). Be methodical and patient.

With 46K miles on my '06 Uly I've done these 10K services several times; there's really not much to do.

For TPS reset you need software and cable.

The various parts of the 10K service have been discussed quite a bit in these forums; perhaps you can do some searching and find useful info.

I have kept all the stock lubricants in my Uly (except I use Mobil-1 15W-50 in the engine) and it has served me well.

Oh, one more thing...based on my experience I'd recommend changing the transmission oil more often than 10K miles; I now change it when I change the engine oil. I was getting lots of water in the tranny oil (do a search on "creamy paste"). Finally rusted the needle bearing in the clutch.
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Istone
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm at 7500 miles, and am dreading the 10k service. It wouldn't be so bad if my buell dealer was at all reasonable about the pricing of service.
I found out early that the cost of an oil change is around 200$. I'm not about to send my bike there for the 10k work, which I'm sure they'll want >1,000 for. I have the manual, and everything seems easy, except for the fork work. Is there someone here who can comment in more detail on the fork oil change?

Chris
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Gtmg
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most of them are in the mid $600.00 range for this service. The fork oil change takes a while and is tricky. It can be done at home but not by every backyard guy. I am taking mine in for this service.
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Kurbennett
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My dealer got it done for $368. Unfortunately they did not change the plugs or folk oil, saying it was'nt required until 20k miles. After rechecking the manual at the house, I called back and after some convincing got them to look it up. So back I went for the remaining two items, they did the plugs but the forks had to wait as their tool was broken. So the forks will now wait for the 15k checkup, as I just don't want to give the bike up for a third try.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most of them are in the mid $600.00 range for this service.

My dealer got it done for $368. Unfortunately they did not change the plugs or folk oil, saying it was'nt required until 20k miles.


This is the part I love about the HD association. Real BUELL enthusiasts.

I bought my Uly with a throughout-warranty-period-FREE SERVICE contract. Maybe they didn't expect I'd ring up 25k+ the first year and they'd make some bucks. First two services were botched and subsequent warranty issues also.

Folks I paid retail willingly for my Buell knowing I'd make out in the end with 50-60k's worth of free service in two years. Boy was I naive. I've done the servicing since the first two myself. It's easy.

Get the Shop Manual and Parts Catalogue also. The special tools you will eventually need will be yours to keep, not like the $$$ you pay some drone's boss to maybe take care of your motorcycle.

You'll get to know your machine personally and IMMHO with motorcycles that's the way it should be.

Not meant as a rant, but Pirsig got to me in the '70's...
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zen rules!!!

What an artful way to avoid unnecessary expenditures.

~jammer
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 03:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hijack alert!

Zen rules!!!

What an artful way to avoid unnecessary expenditures.


And the philosophy isn't even apparent in day by day living for most. Most people plod through life driving against the energies that can assist them. They're never cognizant of the power within. We as motorcyclists have taken the steps.

Unless you're on a motorized unicycle, there isn't a baser form of transportation that can supercharge your senses and appreciation for your own existence than a motorcycle.

Even the most "advanced", "new", completely user-friendly motorcycle which involves minimal operator maintenance still launches us into a heightened state of being while riding in the world around us.

Working on your bike yourself is essential in any shape or form. Brings you closer to what Pirsig wrote his book about.

Zen does have its excellent attributes.
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Rays
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 05:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The one thing you should ignore in the service manual is the recommended torque for the engine oil drain plug. There have been several people strip the swingarm threads by using the recommended figure. It only needs to be 'snug' and if you have to use a torque wrench I'd use the same figures as the primary drain plug which is exactly the same thread size.

I'm with Dr Greg on the tranny intervals - I change it (Formula+) with every engine change.

Read the manual through and make sure you have any required tools and take your time - it can be quite therapeutic.
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Istone
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While we are on the topic of fork work, have any of you with older uly's, mine's an 07, thought about changing out the triple clamps? Is it worth doing to get the extra steering throw?

Chris
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Bienhoabob
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just had my fork oil and seals changed. They charged $168. ($150 for labor, $10 parts, $8 tax).

The rest I do. As stated above, get a manual, proper tools and get to know your bike.
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gtmg Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008

The fork oil change takes a while and is tricky. It can be done at home but not by every backyard guy. I am taking mine in for this service.


Takes a while and is messy is more like it.
I did the 10k fork service myself.
The next go round, I'm paying the local suspension guru to service the forks.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Takes a while and is messy is more like it.
I did the 10k fork service myself.
The next go round, I'm paying the local suspension guru to service the forks.


Aw, cmon...since when do we care about messy? The satisfaction of knowing how to do it and knowing exactly what was done is worth any mess I can think of.

Xbimmer and I are on the same page. Zen indeed.

BTW I bought an "oil sucker" for use on my car (installed skid plate so it's hard to drain the oil) and I use it on the Uly to suck the oil from the swingarm. Doesn't work as well for the tranny, though.
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dr greg,

I have enjoyed the satisfaction once. That is enough for me. I do everything else myself, including tire changes, so I will treat myself by having the forks serviced by the guru. Knowing full well it's been done right.
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