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Wbrisett
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK, so I'm now on my second tank of fuel in the Ulysses (and my poor BMW RT is feeling the neglect)... The weather here in central Texas has been fairly cool, so the heat on the right side of the Ulysses hasn't been too bad. However, what is the solution to the problem? Is there a solution? I spent the $23 dollars on the plastic inserts that Buell is now putting on the '08 models, but the inside of my right leg is still getting pretty toasty.

Any real solutions? Does wrapping the pipes help? (I wouldn't think so since the heat seems to be from the engine and not the pipes).

Wayne
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Uly1080
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wayne,
Check this thread out.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/342016.html?1204333358
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Wbrisett
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for pointing out that thread! I just sent him an email.

Wayne
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Maximum
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That will help for the hot air that shoots out between the seat and the frame, but not the hot air that you get from the header (especially with a left crosswind). But with riding pants the header heat is generally not too bad.
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Aeholton
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wrapping the pipes definitely helps. Some folks get their headers ceramic coated.

As for the little plastic pieces from Buell, I feel like I get more heat with them on. Although, it looks much better with them in place.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heat barrier on the inside of the frame/fuel rail, Odie's blankets, ceramic coated free flowing exhaust, a fatter fuel map, synthetic oil, maybe a RSS to cool it down between long stops. I have these, and heat is no longer an issue, even in hell hot Miami.
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Uly1080
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wrapping the pipes definitely helps.

Aeholton, have you had any problems with the wrap? I know that it is usually not recommended due to the fact it can damage the headers.
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Thunderbox
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wrapping the legs does 2 things. Protects you from any heat and also protects you from road rash. Just wear some good riding pants and the heat thing is history.
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Gsilvernale
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do kevlar impregnated riding jeans insulate from heat? I have leather pants, and with them on, heat is not an issue. But I need something lighter weight for the summertime.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The kevlar in the riding jeans is in the butt and knees. It helps help a little with the heat coming up through the seat, but does nothing for the heat coming through the right side of the frame.

I've got a pretty good handle on the heat on my Uly. I have a cut-down Odie heat blanket. I reshaped it to direct the air out of the side outlets and protect the ECM and battery from the heat. I also relocated the rear brake reservoir out from under the seat which provides a much bigger opening for air out of the ride side under-seat deflector. Lastly I applied aluminum HVAC tape to the inside of the frame rails around the rear cylinder head and to the front underside of the seat. The combination of these things, 8000 miles on the clock, and synthetic oil has made a big difference in my bike.
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Chrisgrant
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hugh, How did you apply the aluminum tape. It seems pretty close to the head. How much did it help with the frame heat? I got to ride mine for a while for the first time yesterday and my arse get roasted and I noticed that the frame was hot as well.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Third season on my wrap with no ill effects. It is cooler and I also run a rss.

I am in the middle of making an sxt out of my ss.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chris,

I cut pieces and trimmed to fit before removing the paper backing. I'd start removing the paper from one end, gently slide the piece into position, stick down the one end, and start pulling the paper backing out, pressing the tape against the frame as I worked. I lined the back of the frame behind the rear head and went inside and on the bottom of the right side of the frame all the way around the rear head. It's a tight fit, but it can definitely be done.

I'm a mechanical engineer, and I don't know how that stuff can insulate/reflect heat as well as it does, but it damn sure works. It made a HUGE difference in the heat radiated to the right side of the frame.

(Message edited by hughlysses on March 13, 2008)
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