| Author | Message | ||
     Hooper |
I was checking out the new 1125R at my dealer last weekend while they slapped a new rear Dunlop 616 on my '06 Uly (7200 miles...that sucker was getting a little too smooth). That new bike is GORGEOUS, and seems big enough for a tall person. The fact that it's a Buell and not something else makes it even more attractive. What's the engineering behind the 1125R that allows it to have 5.3ish gallons of gas and the bigger, longer, wider, continent-crossing, sport-touring Uly to only have 4.4? It's a bummer! I love my Uly, but it's always frustrating to see the yellow light come on after 120-130 miles. What's up with that? | ||
| Chadhargis |
I think it's due to the fact that the liquid cooled engine is smaller which allows the frame to be thicker and therefore hold more fuel. | ||
| Firstbatch |
Fuel in the frame is definetely a limiting fuel capacity issue for the Uly. I believe the 1125R does not use the frame as a fuel reservoir. Uly range seems good to me, I'm ready to take a break after about 180. OF course the 1125R does not get 45 mpg so on the Helicon powered bike the range is probably the same as the Uly if not less. Hoop, you sure got good mileage out of the 616....I'm dumping mine right now at 4400 and going to try Sync. | ||
| Hooper |
Thanks, Firstbatch...yeah, I must have babied that tire...I don't get it. Of course, that feeling of sliding to a stop at a red light is never reassuring! I was tempted to try a new tire like the Sync, but I just had such a good time on the Dunlops and felt so confident on them that I didn't want to change. Oh well - I got lots of input from the folks on Badweb. The Buell website says the 1125R uses the frame as the fuel tank, so I'm just curious how it can have more. Chadhargis might have the answer. Oh well, it's going to be in the 50's tomorrow in the national capital area, so I'm riding without long johns! | ||
| Froggy |
2 reasons both stated above. The Helicon is physically smaller from what I’ve read (don't have dimensions), but it sucks up a hell of a lot more gas. Hence the need for an extra gallon. Firstbatch, the 1125r DOES use the fuel in frame just like any other XB.  Hooper, how much gas you putting in after the light come on? You should be getting at least 40-60 more miles before fill ups. | ||
| Hooper |
Good question Froggy...I generally put in about 3.6 or 3.7 gallons when the yellow light comes on, so there's still plenty of milage left in the tank. I generally estimate my total range at 180-190 miles, which is about the limit I've taken it to. Gotta' love the looks you get at the gas station. One guy in a pickup pulled up next to me and asked, "What is that?! Some sort of dirt bike?!" | ||
| Firstbatch |
Right on, I was thinking about the change of no oil in the swing arm on 1125R....Dooohhh. Maybe this weekend will make the trip to the dealer and get a seat on one....toooo tempting. | ||
| M2nc |
1125R is Fuel in Frame like the XB. But unlike the XB the Helicon motor with counter-balancer is part of the frame. The frame rails can be bigger because you do not have to leave room for the motor to dance around like the HD motor. There is also a cross-member (I think) that the 1125R has that the XB's don't. Also remember that the 1125R get about 32mpg where the Uly gets 45mpg. 32mi/gal*5.6gal = 179.2mi range 45mi/gal*4.4gal = 198mi range Though 45mi/gal*5.6gal = 252mi range would be cool! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I submit that most folks stop after about 150 miles to get a drink and visit the little room. Yes another 100 mile range would be nice, but I doubt that many would use it all ALL the time. | ||
| M2nc |
I submit that most folks stop after about 150 miles to get a drink and visit the little room. Yes another 100 mile range would be nice, but I doubt that many would use it all ALL the time. Not when you have been playing in the mountains of VA & WV all Sunday afternoon and find yourself still there at 7:30pm and you have to go to work at 7am the next morning 320 miles away. That was an endurance ride. I made it home before mid-night with only one splash and dash stop for gas. Of course even with the larger tank, I would have had to stop. When long distance riding, I will run the Uly out of gas between stops. A feat I can not do on the M2 (Message edited by M2nc on February 02, 2008) | ||
| Court |
204 That's when I stop. | ||
| Etennuly |
Riding what Mr.C? A 2008 Ulysses with heated grips I presume. The furthest I have made it was 233 miles. It took 4.3 gallons and it was still running when I pulled in the station. That calculates to 54.18 mpg. It has done better on the Blue Ridge Parkway, but I stopped shorter (58 mpg running sustained 45 - 50 mph). On the interstates at sustained 80 mph + I have to stop at about 155 miles where I usually put in about 3.7 gal, that works out to 41.89 mpg. That is the worst it has ever done. | ||
| Portero72 |
I hate you all...my 06(studlier orange) runs great, but the best I've been able to manage is 42mpg. Mostly its about 40. Seems not to matter if its city/highway. | ||
| Etennuly |
It is weird but my mileage is better flogging it moderately hard on back roads, and around town, than on the open highways. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I'm usually at 150-160. If I get a little hamfisted with bursts of 100+, the mileage before amber is about 130. Best I've done is 170 and STILL no fuell light. That was running hard in the mountains. I think that besides the genetically enhanced 18 in neck gorilla build, air resistance is the biggest killer of fuel mileage. I could totally see needing a huge fuel capacity if you were riding WAAAAY off the beaten path. The Uly just isn't made for that kind of use. There are a few places out west where it MIGHT be an issue, but chances are that you would have a really hard time running 150 miles or more between stations. Now if your issue is simply not wanting to stop, that's something else. Iron butters might need it. | ||
| Bigkuri |
I can never understand these threads... Not sure what it is about US bikes (?), but the best I've ever done is 33.1 mpg (in US gallons, which is 40mpg UK gallons). It's a new bike - only 1500 miles, and an 08, however the difference just seems too much. Worse is 24 mpg, for several tanks - when I've really been riding hard. I never really "cruise". My average is just over 30mpg. | ||
| Windrider |
I get better fuel economy and range when I am out riding on the open road. Commuting cuts down a bit on the range but a Uly can go 200 miles to the fuel light. Below find my fuel log from a two up road trip last summer. I can't believe how great this bike does on fuel while still delivering such excellent power. 4.4 gallons is enough for my Uly.  | ||
| Chadhargis |
Best mileage I've seen was 52mpg when babying it in 5th gear, worst I've recorded was 38. I typically get about 42mpg. Now...if you wanna talk about sucking fuel, I'll let you borrow my 600. On track days I get about 80 miles before I need to fill it up. I could probably eek out 100 miles if I really had to, but it would REALLY suck to run out of gas on the track. Oh yeah...my 600 has a 5.5 gallon tank. | ||
| Joe_solo |
I did 375 km or 231 miles at a fast clip (faster than 125km/hr) on my 07'. Ran out just as I pulled up to the pump. Downhill for the most part - elevation change of about 300 meters and no head wind. | ||
| M2nc |
The best mileage I have had is 62+mpg on the Blue Ridge Parkway. I was riding with other smaller XBs (3.7 gallon). They saw gas at 119 miles and stopped since that is about their range. I took 1.9 gallons with 119 miles since the last fill up. The furthest I rode non-stop was just over 200 miles. I thought the fuel light had burned out because it went to 201 miles before it came on. Like I said before, my Uly gets the best mileage at a constant 55-65mph. I regularly hit north of 55mpg when I do. Commuting I get 42-45mpg. At constant 85-90mph I get between 48-50mpg. | ||
| Jlnance |
There are a few places out west where it MIGHT be an issue, but chances are that you would have a really hard time running 150 miles or more between stations. I used to agree with you, but my perspective changed after I rode out west. My concern was the distance between exits. There are places in Wyoming, on the interstate, where you don't have enough range to make it to gas if the fuel light comes on. This was compounded by the fact that the altitude and temperature of the state killed my mileage. I had the low fuel light come on once at 120 miles, where as I normally make it to about 160. That is a very unsettling combination. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Good thing the population of Wyoming is only about 35. | ||
| Paul56 |
I want more fuel because I have to fill up every other day and would like to add a day. I put in 3.0-3.2 gals at 135-145 miles (occasionally have to go in the yard the back way when there's a train blocking the front gate). Can't quite squeeze another 70 miles and one more day between fill ups. I still hope to get around to building an aux tank that goes in place of the rear fender and holds about 1.5 gals and gravity feeds to the existing fuel pump drain fitting. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
When running off grid, I put a 1+ gallon can in my tank bag (fits but snug) and a two + tank in the left side for gas, and a two + in the right side for water and balance. I can play all day in the woods! | ||
| Michael1 |
So far I haven't had the need for more mileage. Usually, when I am trying to haul butt on the interstate (70~90mph), I get around 45mpgs. In the twisties, I'm always at 50+ mpgs and that's running it. The BEST mileage ever was just riding back roads at a steady 55mph in 75F weather, perfect humidity as well. I ended up with 62mpg and it was fan-friggan-tastic. For longer rides, I plan on carring a little 2 liter container just to help a "little" bit. It's not much..but I plan to never be that far from a gas station to begin with. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
"204 That's when I stop." Sounds like my old KLR mileage. I always filled up between 200 and 225. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Hinkle, How's the MS? | ||
| Buellerandy |
Since we're on the topic of mpg on the uly...have others found that by running at 4000 rpms you'll get better mileage? I remember seeing this posted elsewhere but couldn't find it. | ||
| Spike |
I'm still trying to sort out the fuel mileage/range on my Ulysses. When I borrowed Jlnance's '06 Ulysses back in November I was able to go 186 miles before hitting the light. I've only put 1k miles on my '07 so far (bought used, had ~4900 miles on it when I picked it up), but so far I haven't seen much more than 170 miles before hitting the light. On my last full tank I got around 40mpg the light came on after about 150 miles. I thought it might have been due to making short trips, but yesterday I covered ~100 miles of interstate and this morning the light came on after only 150 miles on that tank. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Andy, You are correct. If you keep it spooled up, you get better mileage. ChadHargis and I did a pretty hot run keeping it between 4500 and redline in east TN mountain roads. We each filled up at exactly the same time, rode the same distance, at roughly the same speed. In the end we each had gone 170 miles and the light hadn't come on. It was the best mileage I had ever gotten. |
