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Portero72
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 07:04 pm: |
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Correction, the right bracket is giving me problems. The bracket does not want to line up, and I can't seem to get all 3 bolts in at once. No difference which order I start, the flange that bolts to the back of the passenger footpeg won't line up. I even took a drill to the flange and widened that hole, but still no go. Anyone else experience this? |
Slowride
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 07:36 pm: |
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Yep, alot of muscle and alot of cutting edge nervousness as I pulled the passenger peg mount out enough to get all three bolts in. I finally ended up putting a towel around it and pulling it out until I could get the last bolt in. Good Luck.... and remember it is only alumin..... |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 07:37 pm: |
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Yes I have, and others too. I can't believe they're still selling them like that, whether there's a problem with the right side of the bike or the bracket itself. These should bolt right up without drama but they don't. You will have to remove the right side footpeg casting from the frame. Go ahead and install the left bracket, the curved tie support between the two sides, and then the right bracket into the top mounting locations. DO NOT TIGHTEN ANYTHING YET! Fit everything together as loosely as possible and still get some good threading started. Remember the Red LocTite. Now it gets good. For me, the right passenger footpeg can rub the side case. Once you have all the bolts started as described, ballpark the angle of the right footpeg casting to its position on the frame and tighten the lower forward sidecase bolt to it FIRST. Make sure you pull the casting as far forward as possible or the passenger peg may contact the side case. Then you need to re-attach the casting to the frame, making sure you don't cross-thread any of the three bolts into the frame. Torque them down and then you can rotate fastening all the side case bolts to the bike. Before a final torquing of those bolts you may want to mount the right side case and check the clearance of the passenger peg. If it clears then double check your work and you're good to go. If you want to add the top case mount later (like I did) it's not hard and I've found the top case to actually be very useful. Recheck your bolts after a time. IMO this is a ridiculous amount of effort to attach these things. Also IMO the right bracket is known to be faulty and needs to be fixed. FWIW my top case mount is also welded up crooked although it doesn't affect the mounting. Ridiculous for such a $$$$ accessory. |
Bertotti
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 07:46 pm: |
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I put all the bolts in just a few turns to start them then started turning them all in a little at a time. No problems |
Florida_lime
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 07:55 pm: |
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I had mine installed at the dealership, and they had the same problems that Xbimmer described. Except... they stripped out the hole on the right passenger peg "trying" too hard. As has been mentioned, it really shouldn't be a problem given the cost |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 09:23 pm: |
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Mine was a booger to get installed. I ended up having to get the side racks installed and then nutting the cross bar on. Quality control on fitment is a little off somewhere. |
Portero72
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 09:41 pm: |
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lordalmighty...FWIW, i got them 2nd hand, or 3rd hand....i did get closer widening the hole on that right flange. i might just try a bit more on that and use a washer. i would like these to be semi-removable. thx for the help |
08uly
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:29 pm: |
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I was pissed. Mine were dealer installed and I had to return and coax them to finish the job after finding mine as follows...
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Portero72
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:53 pm: |
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haha...i mean that with tears...looks shockingly like my situation. like i said, i will probably just widen that hole so i don't have to take half the bike apart to get the racks off. |
Hdbobwithabuell
| Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:56 pm: |
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Loosen the bolts to the rear peg mounts. Makes ALL the difference |
Towjam
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 12:11 am: |
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Ok, here goes a stupid question... I've yet to see a Uly first hand that has the brackets/bags mounted. I went up to my dealer today and they have 3 Ulys on the floor - but none with bags. I was specifically looking to see how and where the brackets would mount and with the exception of the 4 tie-down slots under the tail, I don't see any place to mount brackets without drilling holes or something. Am I missing something? |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 12:24 am: |
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Look on my under tail, you will see a hole, not the bungee cord hole, that’s one of bolt spots. The other one is on the other side but not visible, 2 more holes are where the plastic license plate and turn signal holder bolt up under the triple tail. Those 2 bolts get replaced with longer bolts that fit the bracket. The last 2 bolts are visible in the pic 08Uly posted, they are on the rear foot peg mounts. 2 Bolts go in rear foot peg 2 Bolts go in Rear under tail holes 2 Bolts replace 2 bolts that join the plastic piece. |
Etennuly
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 12:31 am: |
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Look on my under tail, you will see a hole, NO! say you didn't say that! |
Towjam
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 12:35 am: |
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Look on my under tail, you will see a hole, not the bungee cord hole, that’s one of bolt spots. The other one is on the other side but not visible, 2 more holes are where the plastic license plate and turn signal holder bolt up under the triple tail. Those 2 bolts get replaced with longer bolts that fit the bracket. The last 2 bolts are visible in the pic 08Uly posted, they are on the rear foot peg mounts. 2 Bolts go in rear foot peg 2 Bolts go in Rear under tail holes 2 Bolts replace 2 bolts that join the plastic piece. Thanks Froggy! That's what I was looking for. |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 02:23 am: |
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Word is that running the top box without the side hardware is NOT recommended. Frame breakages - and not covered by warranty. Think I read it on here. |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 02:25 am: |
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Make the holes in the bottom bracket (footpeg)slightly bigger for easier fitting. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:00 am: |
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Harbor Freight is running a sale on those titanium nitride shaped step drill bits (those cone things). Darn handy things to have laying around. One of two useful things I learned from the early days of OCC (back when they actually showing the bikes being built). |
Jb2607
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 04:43 pm: |
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No matter how I lined them up or what order, I had to drill out the right side bracket to get it to fit. JB |
Jb2607
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 04:48 pm: |
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Clarification... No matter how I lined them up or what order, I had to drill out the right side bracket to get it to fit. I am talking about the far right bolt under the seat/fender. I had to drill out the hole completely and use a longer bolt and nut. JB |
Iugradmark
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:35 pm: |
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Can you tell me whether it is a qc problem with the bikes or the luggage brackets. Has anyone been able to fit the brackets without all this drilling, etc? Does it make any difference what year the bikes or brackets are? Finally, is it something we can get Buell to respond to? |
Harleychanic
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:43 pm: |
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I installed my racks without drilling or modifying any of the bolt holes. When I install them at work the easiest thing to do is to leave everything loose under the tail section and loosen the three allen bolts that hold the footpeg mounts on to get the front bolt holes to line up. Once all the bolts are started tighten the footpeg mount bolts down then follow the rest of the sequence to tighten the racks. |
Spike
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:46 pm: |
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I just installed mine a few weeks ago, I had the same trouble. Mine wouldn't line up with the mounting holes in the passenger peg brackets. My right side bracket looked just like the one in the picture that 08uly posted. I loosened the passenger peg brackets and started just pry things into place, but decided I didn't like having the whole thing bound up like that. I ended up spending a few minutes on the forward mounting holes with a rat-tail file. Now everything lines up fine and I can remove/reinstall the brackets without any trouble. |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:55 pm: |
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Iugradmark, I bought my bike with the 3 bags pre installed. It was on the showroom floor like that, so I don’t know if the dealer had any issues with fitment. I took off the side racks after a few weeks, and they went back on fine a few days later, then I took them off again for about 2 months. When I went to go put them back on, I ran into an issue with not being able to get all the bolts to line up. If I got the under tail 4 to line up, the 2 peg ones wouldn’t. I rode it for a day without those 2 bolts in and somehow in all the day I was riding the brackets were hitting the swing arm putting nice nicks in it. I took the brackets off and basically forgot about them for a few more months. Next time I put them on; I had the same issue with the 2 bolts not lining up. I ended up having to loosen the bolts that connect the sub frame to the frame, tilting the tail section up a few degrees, and then the 2 bolts went in no problem. So it’s a yes and no I only kind of had a fitment issue, but it wasn’t hard to fix. |
Hdbobwithabuell
| Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 07:44 pm: |
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Yeah, do like Harleychanic says. Dont tighten anything, loosen the rear peg mounts on both sides. Get everything started before tightening anything up. Mine went on no problem but only after loosening the rear mounts. |
Marlinrider
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 11:06 am: |
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When I installed the side case racks on my '06, I leaned the bike against the garage door and pushed to line the holes up at the passenger footpeg. But I did not tighten anything until I had the bolts started. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 11:15 am: |
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+2 on what Harleychanic says. I used that method ~1 year ago when I installed my bags and didn't have to enlarge any bolt holes and I didn't strip any bolts. |
New12r
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 01:12 pm: |
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Hope you got squared away. If I would have known they were so hard to put on I would have let you know! I only removed them, packed and shipped em to ya! I hope you use them more than I did. |
Portero72
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 06:17 pm: |
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New12r.... no worries, i'm about to get them on. just had to widen the bolt hole on the peg bracket side. seems easier that loosening half the bike and loctite-ing all that down. am still quite pleased with them. |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 08:44 pm: |
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seems easier that loosening half the bike and loctite-ing all that down. Use the red LocTite bro! I tried to get away with the Blue and the bolts up into the subframe all loosened up! Of course, YMMV.} |
Ahowudoon
| Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 09:54 pm: |
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Just put mine on yesterday. Jazzed up my Torx driver getting the factory bolts out. Had a bit of a difficult time getting all the holes to line up. I left everything as loose as possible until the very end; then I pulled them out one at a time to put the Locktite on. Bit of a bear getting all of them back in again, but everything's on now. I was worried about stripping out a couple of holes, bit it all went ok. |