| Author | Message | ||
     Johnboy777 |
Electraglider_1997, You might want to start a new thread "Temp Dipsticks (pre-orders)" w/ photos and a detailed description and mention you're taking pre-orders. Keep a runing list w/ in the thread itself. Very Cool! Can't wait for mine. John H. . | ||
| Jammin_joules |
"Since the temps have plummeted for most of us anyways, I believe that no one has mentioned the dreaded Buell fan." I think the high tonight will be below zero here. I'd love to hear my beloved Buell fan kick in about now. ~jammer ...  | ||
| Chris_socal |
It is 42 here in Southern California this evening and I decided to go for a ride. I ran from Pasadena to Hollywood to LA to Pasadena and my fan stayed on the entire time. -Chris | ||
| Johnboy777 |
I really do hate you guys that live in sunny this or sunny that and can ride all year. It was 2 f**king degrees here last night and it might reach 12 today. GRRRRRR! . | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Doesn't appear to be any interest, at least so far. I got to thinking about making those dipsticks and remembered something that needs to be mentioned. When the temp-dipstick is screwed in snug, you want to be able to look at it and not have it upside-down or sideways. That means when I sealed the thermometer in with black silicone, it had to be screwed in immediately after sealing (before the silicone begins to "skin") and the thermometer twisted to the correct attitude in relation to the original dipstick plastic piece that is snugged into the swingarm and then you let the silicone set up. More than likely my particular dipstick would not present itself the same in other ULY swingarms. Might be upside-down. That would piss off anyone that got one like that. The only way around that would be to provide the bored out ULY part, the calibrated and oil-level-scribed thermometer and the purchaser could buy tube of hightemp black silicone ( about $5 ) and seal the unit together on their own bike. The only tricky part in making your own like I did is making sure you get the bore straight and not at some angle. | ||
| Ftd |
Electraglider_1997 If you decide to make them I'll buy one. Frank | ||
| Johnboy777 |
That's two... 8 to go. . | ||
| Chris_socal |
I am not sure why so many people don't like the fan. I think it is one of the unique features of the Buell. The best is when there are two or more next to each other and the fans are harmonizing. Embrace your uniqueness. -Chris | ||
| Crusty |
LOUD FANS SAVE LIVES! | ||
| Teeps |
Torrance, CA: Sunny, 50F., calm, think I'll go for a ride. Be at the Rock Store around 10AM. See you there? | ||
| Bertotti |
Teeps you are killing me. -10 so it warmed up a bit here. Don't think I'll be riding today. Don't think the fan would come on if I did! | ||
| Froggy |
Electraglider, any idea if they will work with non-Ulys? I know the SS uses the same swingarm. | ||
| Florida_lime |
It was 82 degrees here yesterday, and my fan didn't come on either.  I went to leave for work, started it up per usual, finished gearing up, and pulled out of the driveway. Engine check light !? Shut it off, turned key on, the light goes out. Start it up, 3 seconds later the engine check light comes back on. And again.  Parked it back in the garage, and pulled out my wife's bike. Took that to work. Today I looked things over after checking a few things here on BadWeb last night. Fuse was blown out for the fan. Replaced it, started up the bike, and NO engine check light. But for how long ? I figured it might blow when the fan tried to come on, so I rode to a discount auto parts place nearby for more fuses. A cold front last night cooled thing down a bit, so I didn't hear the fan on the short trip. When I turned off the ignition, the fan started like usual. For about 3 seconds. Then nothing. No strange noises, no rocks in a blender, just silence. Started it back up, and then engine check light again. PLUS a bad smell -- almost like burnt plastic. In hindsight, I do remember smelling something a little unusual the other night, but it was raining when I got home, and figured it might have been one of those suicidal frogs that appear on the road like kamikaze pilots. Also, in the last few days, I have been trying to determine the origin of a slight oil leak in the rear shock/ fan area, with no success. I'm sure that there is a connection there, but it is NOT the vent tube in that area. The ID of the tube was clean and dry. Dealer/warrantee time. | ||
| Uly1080 |
-one of those suicidal frogs that appear on the road like kamikaze pilots  ...but seriously, sorry to hear that. I'm anxious to hear what the dealer says. | ||
| Bertotti |
Suicidal frogs smell like burnt plastic?  He didn't get sucked up into the fan I hop! Was thinking if he did maybe Hoon could use what's left.  (Message edited by bertotti on January 20, 2008) | ||
| Florida_lime |
Bertotti, It's 5 degrees in Sioux Falls right now; when was the last time you even saw a frog, let alone remember what one splattered up against a Uly exhaust smells like ?  | ||
| Chris_socal |
Teeps, Too bad I missed you. I sent you a PM with my number so you can call me next time you go on a ride. Rode yesterday and was up in the mountains as it started to get dark. It got cool enough that the fan kicked off. Outside air temp was probably in the mid 40's. -Chris | ||
| Adrian_8 |
I have a temp dipstick on my FXDX.. I have quickly inserted it in the ULY after a hot spirited ride and it shows a temp of about 180F....which would be about 40 degrees cooler than the souped up HD with no oil cooler. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Froggy, Knowing how Buell standardizes parts to keep costs in line I'd guess they are the same. Only a guess though. | ||
| Bertotti |
I still don't under stand what was wrong with the 06-07 oil system. I know they changed it for 08 but I don't assume it was because it was better, just needed for the new motor changes. Electraglider_1997 has knowing the oil temp helped you any? I was kind of of the impression that unless you were in very hot weather the oil temp wasn't going to go much above 200˚F anyway. Florida_lime I meant that as a question but you are right, I haven't seen a frog in months.  How hot does oil need to get to boil off water? Around 212˚F??? (Message edited by bertotti on January 20, 2008) | ||
| Chris_socal |
Here is the official info from Buell: For 2008, Buell advances the performance of its air/oil/fan-cooled Thunderstorm® V-Twin engine series with a larger crank pin, an improved oiling system, and a new electronic timing system and ECM that controls an all new DDFI 3 fuel injection system. Combined, these changes improve drivability and performance, and reduce service maintenance costs. Also new for 2008, the Thunderstorm® 1203 redline is increased to 7100 rpm from 6800 rpm, giving this engine an even broader powerband, and riders the ability to accelerate longer and downshift at a higher rpm. | ||
| M2nc |
In cooler temperatures my fan does not always run until I shut it off. Here is what I have notice. In temps below 60°F City Riding - Will come on if in stop and go for more than 15 minutes. Highway Riding - 55-65mph does not come on. Freeway Riding - 75-85mph it will come on and stay on for more than 15 minutes. In temps above 80°F the fan will come on after 15 minutes in all riding and stay on until I shut the bike off. | ||
| Treadmarks |
EG, I'm in for one of the thermo dipsticks, whenever you get around to making them. They look great and provide instant feedback on cooling mods. | ||
| Bugnut |
Electraglider wrote: The oil cooling affect of the aluminum swingarm really exaggerates itself as the outside temps drop. I think I've got it. I made a run yesterday of about a hundred miles in Sunday town traffic with the oil cooler blocked. Basically a triple folded piece of closed cell foam. This effectively blocked all air from passing through the cooler. Ambient temps from 45 to 61. Stopped several times to check oil temp along the ride, fan only on occasionally for this street ride at lights. Temp in the swing arm never touched 190. I think being in the swingarm reduces the temp due to the very thing you mention: Aluminum. Immense conductive properties allowing the oil to be cooled just enough. When getting "cooled" oil, head temps stay stable (enhanced by a RSS). And again this morning, low temps (45), blocked cooler, swing arm temps at 180. Works. Even the frame was only mildly warm to the touch yesterday. Not hot as usual. Fan on for less that 2 minutes. Normal is a solid 4 to 5 minutes post commute. I'd say a blocked cooler at lower temps allows the temp to rise well enough, and if it gets colder yet, I'll block the RSS. Extending my riding season nicely. Not that it gets really cold here in Florida for any length of time! Now I'll just have to remember to take the blocker out when the temps jump back up to 80 - - next week! Thanks for the help. By the way, if I didn't have a temp dipstick and someone made them, I'd buy. Build it and they will come. I'm a sucker for idiot lights and gauge! Oooo, flashy lights! Mike | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Bertotti, To answer your question about what's good about knowing how hot your oil is, here are a few reasons I went to the trouble in the first place: 1) You may remember the "heat management" thread. I did a series of mods to increase the air flow around the rear cylinders and thought that oil temp was an important component to that exercise. It proved to be just that. I'd wager that my Uly fan comes on much later than other ULYs except maybe those with the RSS. I only say this because of what I read on BadWeb and from remembering before my heat management mods. 2) I'm a retired engineer and I'm used to microprocessors providing tons of data for my perusal. Data is what allows engineers to keep complex systems running and also to improve them. 4) Heck, even the lowly Sportster has temp dipsticks readily available for purchase. 5) Without it I had no idea how hot the oil was getting. After making it and seeing how well Buell regulates the oil temp I rest easier with this knowledge. 6) Buells have an oil cooler but with the temp dipstick I now know that the swingarm oil tank is just as good an oil cooler as the one up front. 7) Whether I really need to or not, I look at that oil temp dipstick almost everytime I get off that bike. Many times when I get back on also. Anyway, so far I see that Bertotti, FTD, and Treadmarks have requested a temp/dipstick. I'm not in it to make money and have decided that I'll provide a kit for a lower price. All you'll have to do when you get the kit is this: 1) Buy yourself a 5 dollar tube of black high temp gasket making silicone. I don't want to have to buy and ship that stuff when you can get it at your auto parts store or maybe even WalMart. 2) Screw the bored out and modified ULY dipstick plug into your swingarm until it is snug like you normally would do. 3) Insert the temp probe turn it in relation to the plug to exactly how you would like to see it when you want to check the oil temp. Use a magic marker to mark across the temp gage and modified ULY plug. 4) Unscrew the plug taking care to wipe oil off dip stick temp probe before removing from the plug. 5) Apply silicone sealant to plug bore and then reinsert temp probe. Align your magic marker marks so it ends up the way you want. Clean off excess sealant and let it cure for a few hours. 6) Congratulations, your done. Screw it back into the swingarm and it will be just the way you want to look at it. I will have already calibrated the temp gage and scribed the add and full marks before I ship to you. 7) I'm thinking 40 bucks per kit. That includes shipping and handling. | ||
| Treadmarks |
U da man EG. Do you paypal? | ||
| Jammin_joules |
I have a temp dipstick on my FXDX.. I have quickly inserted it in the ULY after a hot spirited ride That's another reason I love motorcycles. Unlike women, you can take one motorcycle for a hot spirited ride and then if you stick your dipstick into another, the first one doesn't get mad or jealous.  | ||
| Ftd |
Sounds good EG. Advise as to payment. TIA Frank | ||
| Ulyganfreedom |
Hey EG, I'm interested in one! Let me know how to pay for it. Thanks! Tom | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
I'll call and order some of those ULY dipsticks. It'll probably take a week to get them. I once set up a Paypal account to pay someone but really don't remember how it works. I'll look into it. I'll also have to make sure I can get enough of those probes. Expect email from me once I get things together. |
