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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And there's more.......

Got some websites for the techies and anoraks among you......

http://micapeak.com/info/oiled.html

http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html

Enjoy your reading!!!
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Kvdog
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Another thing to consider if this was the first service is an adjustment to the primary."

I encountered this after dealer service. The primary chain was left way too loose and the sound fit the "blender full of marbles" description perfectly.
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Chris_socal
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting. I am going to call the dealer to ask them about that. I have switched back to Dino now and although the noise is reduced it is still there.

Thanks Kvdog
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Chris_socal
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, they aren't sure if what I am hearing is normal or not. I am going to take it in tomorrow morning to have them look at it. Hopefully it is an easy fix. If not I will just buy a spec-ops pipe to drown it out.

Correct noise with more noise.

-Chris
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These bikes do get quieter and smoother as they get miles on them. Mine is over 24,000 miles and is shifting easier and running smoother than ever.
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Chris_socal
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So here is something new and fun...

So my brother started this thread to see if anyone had experienced this issue before. In return you all have bestowed on us some great information. But none of us could have accounted for what I just figured out.

The bike had virtually no oil in it! I put over half a quart in to get it up to the safe zone on the damn dipstick.

Before I go on let me pre-answer the question on all of your minds, yes I checked it hot.

Now, I have not put more than 215 (< 2 fuel lights) miles on it since I last had it serviced. I carry a quart of oil around with me because I know these bikes tend to burn oil when they are new. I tend to check the oil every other fill-up. So I started to think to myself "how can this be?"

Well the answer is pretty clear (especially since there are no leaks), there was not enough oil put in by the technician when the oil was changed.

Please tell me if I am wrong in my thought pattern. I will give it a day or two to let you all respond. I don't want to go in guns blazing if it isn't warranted.

The pinging or valve knocking noise was happening when I picked up the bike. It has gotten progressively worse. Makes sense, not enough oil and I was burning oil as expected. After I put in enough oil to get it into the safe zone the noise went away. F'ing brilliant!

So my original theory that the Dino would stop the noise was correct. The bike seems to be purring like a kitten. It even appears to have a bit more torque.

Lesson learned, check your fluid levels yourself because you can't rely on anyone, not even the factory certified technicians. I am going to do a complete nose to tail on it tomorrow to make sure there isn't anything else F'ed up on it.

I really want to be able to rely on my dealer but I have lost faith as this is not the first issue I have had.

-Chris
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Bad_karma
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 04:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chris
Check you primary level. I believe the proper level of synthetic would stop the noise also.
Joe
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Chris_socal
Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe,

I ran synthetic for 5K miles and made sure it was at the correct level the entire time. Regardless of that fact I still had the noise.

-Chris
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