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Cavi
| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 04:18 pm: |
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Take a look at the new BMW, really looks good, I think if more dirt is in your future, this would be a great bike, since it is lighter than both the Uly and the BMW 1200gs |
Canyonwlf7
| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 04:44 pm: |
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I test rode a BMW F800St recently and was not impressed with the motor or trans, they can have it. |
Irelage
| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 06:27 pm: |
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This is the bike that I might sell my Uly and KLR for. I am waiting to hear the feedback on it when an associate picks his up. Love the Uly and the KRL but maybe this is the bike to do it all. |
Cavi
| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 08:47 pm: |
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the Road Runner has a broef review, looks favorable. |
Old_mil
| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 10:58 pm: |
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For $15,900 and BMW's recent reliability record, they can keep it. |
Vagabond
| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 11:07 pm: |
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$15,900?!!! WTF?! And I thought the R12GS was overpriced. Thanks, but no thanks BMW. |
Karlsbad
| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 12:33 am: |
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I recently ordered one should show up in a couple months. Heated grips, clear turn signals, onboard comp., No ABS, No Bags (Has bag mounts) Under 10K (B4 Tax & Lic.)I will probably trade 06 DR650 in. I have told my local BMW shop purchase hinges on ride, they said no problem. So if it checks out rides well feels light,(compared to 1200) I shall be an owner. Use the ULY as a more road oriented bike use the GS for those dirt days. |
Iugradmark
| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 11:14 am: |
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This bike has a lot of features to like. It should be reliable since it uses very little BMW made parts. Rotax engine, standard suspension, chain drive, etc. All the stuff that usually breaks or is expensive to maintain is not used. But it will have a strong following and aftermarket which we do not have for the Buell. This is the engine that I wish Buell had acquired. Plenty of power, light weight, and really good gas mileage based on the S and ST models. Many early buyers will pay a premium but in a year or two, prices should stabilize. |
Adrian_8
| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 11:45 am: |
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To be honest, it looks like a good bike to me...the "ONLY" BMW that I would even think about buying. A very good do- it- all bike..if you had only one bike... I like the fact it has "real forks" and a chain. No final drive problems and expense to worry about after warranty. A 456 lb. bike is just too big for most people to handle in off road situations that have any technical difficulty. It would be a pretty good bike for riding the Colorado passes in the summertime with the 21 inch front tire, I think they will sell very well just don't complain about service and parts cost. The clutch lever on a BMW R1200GS is $295.00 versus a Ulysses @ $29.00. |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 01:23 pm: |
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their new 450 & the G650X Challenge could be my more aggressive dirt squirter since Buell isnt going that direction |
Vagabond
| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 09:56 pm: |
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$10K I can deal with. The $16K number must have been for the 12GS. The R12GS is not a motorcycle, but rather a two-wheeled jeep. The 650GS is a good bike, but has never done anything for me (that's why I bought a KTM 640 ADV instead). Now enter the 800GS. This bike reminds me of the original G/S, and I hope that it has "character" like the old airheads. If I buy another BMW, the F800GS will be the one. I believe that my Uly is a long travel street bike, which is perfect for the "paved" roads in Alaska, Yukon, and Northern BC. The 800GS has more off-road "chops", and would be best suited to roads like the Denali hwy, Dalton, and the Dumpster....oops, Dempster hwy. just my $.02. |
Jim_sb
| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 10:09 pm: |
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Saw a GS800 at the Long Beach Motorcycle show. I liked it. With bags, out the door, prolly won't be much different than my Ulysses was cost wise. If I ever sell the Uly, the GS800 would be the #1 candidate to replace her. Jim in Santa Barbara |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 11:59 pm: |
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If I ever sell the Uly, the GS800 would be the #1 candidate to replace her. +1. Sat on the bike at Long Beach, could flatfoot it and it felt light as heck. Gave it a good visual going-over and I LIKE it. Reminds me of what BMW's used to be, simple and effective... |
Bake
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 12:53 pm: |
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I would consider one more if the had of kept with the boxer motor, meanwhile soon as we get them in Canada and the snow clears I want to test ride one..... just for fun. |
Iugradmark
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 12:55 pm: |
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One comment on pricing. These bikes are going to sell out fast and BMW will load them up like they did with the early S and ST models to increase profit margins so out the door pricing for most folks will probably be close to $14K for a bike with the stuff people will want (luggage and racks, center stand, heated grips, etc.). I bet a lot of R Bike riders take a hard look at this bike. Most solo riders will not need anything more than what this bike has and the lower weight and simpler maintenance will be a refreshing change. I think BMW did what Eric wanted to do with Buell. They got a great real-world usable reliable motor from Rotax, picked up Husky for dirt bikes, and created new lines of bikes to attract and hold onto customers. If Eric had the money, I think he would have gone the same direction. |
Johnboy777
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 01:17 pm: |
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I don't see how these bikes are similar at all. The Uly is a street bike with extra ground clearance and the 800 is a F650GS with an extra cylinder. The 800 can't compete w/ the Uly on the road, nor can the Uly go off-roading as well as any GS. I think owning both would be the ticket - the 800 for those days spent in the dirt. Now if I just had an extra 12K lying around. . |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 01:48 pm: |
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I like the Uly because it makes very short work of long roads, it's comfortable and has smooth street like manners. The Uly would also make a better two up bike. I do like the badass looks, USDs, 21" wheel, parallel twin and freaky front fender though.
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Bertotti
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 02:12 pm: |
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Just curious, but what is the rake and trail on it? |
Buellerandy
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 07:08 pm: |
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20 grand for an HP2... |
Saltydog
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 08:04 pm: |
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21" front wheel, liquid cooling, and a dealer network that supports its customers... I'm almost certain I'll be trading mine in for this. Sorry Erik, the Bavarian bastards win again... |
Rubberdown
| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 09:01 pm: |
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Andy, I bought my HP2 brand new with less than 10 miles on it for 17,000, with some accessories. No regrets. They only made one run of them. Mine's #77. It rocks off road, tours, and it pretty darn fun on the track too.
It's serves as three bikes for me so it turned out to be a relative bargain. 13,000 miles of recreational riding in 13 months and it just keeps getting better. |
Karlsbad
| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 12:53 am: |
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Bake Dude we are almost neighbours Love your Laverda! |
Bake
| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 02:30 pm: |
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Bake Dude we are almost neighbours Love your Laverda! Oh that old thing I have been hanging on to for 35 years |
Buellerandy
| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 02:46 pm: |
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I wasn't doggin on the HP2, I want one lol. Just couldn't believe their msrp. Maybe if I'm lucky there'll be a gently used one in a couple years |
Rubberdown
| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 02:48 pm: |
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Andy, if we meet at MB, you can ride mine. It may be set up for enduro or street, not sure. |
Buellerandy
| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 06:06 pm: |
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Sweet. I'm throwing on some avon distanzias for the trip in case I hit some snow coming from and going back through Wisconsin. |
Lovehamr
| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:58 pm: |
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I'm sorry but the front end, what with the weird lights etc., still looks like someone rode a magnet through a junk yard. |
Crusty
| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 01:34 pm: |
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...and a dealer network that supports its customers... And a manufacturer and distributor that do not support their customers. Sorry Salty, the American upstart gets my money. |
Iugradmark
| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 02:16 pm: |
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Crusty, You've identified an interesting difference between the two brands. BMW dealers are usually pretty good but BMW NA has really been horrible to the customer base. Buell has the exact opposite problem. |
Buellerandy
| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 02:29 pm: |
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I was unaware that the company isn't as good about customers as the dealerships are. Is that felt by any other beemer riders on this board? |
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