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Red_chili
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forgive me if I missed this along the way, but is the '07 reflash no longer possible to have done by the dealer?

The reason I ask, I went to the dealer to have it done, and they said the new software/computer combo issued by Harley and REQUIRED to be used by the dealers no longer allows keying in a fake VIN - it queries the ECM to figure out what year it is.

Is this true? Dangit all if it is.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get EcmSpy, and DIY.
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Red_chili
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm... you got an '07 map by chance? Or a link to one?
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ba Da Boom Baby
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Rwcfrank
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats amazing!!!!!!!!!!!Badweb rocks!
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Red_chili
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome. Now I just need the knowledge to know what to do with them, and the courage to try!
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Daveymac
Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 04:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Along with eeprom file (.epr) is a
.TXT file
The 2 of them live in C:\Program Files\EcmSpy\eprom
EcmSpy will not see .epr file with out .txt file.

Does anybody have this so I can flash up to "07" eeprom.
Both are created when a Backup is done in EcmSpy.
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Packdog
Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 05:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might find what you are looking for here:

http://www.primenumbers.org/buell/xb12.html
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Daveymac
Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see it for the race ecm, not the stock 07.

Just need someone to do a Backup using EcmSpy for either a "07" or "06" reflash to "07" eeprom.

Thanks to who ever is hosting those files, but its incomplete for use, for stock configuration.
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Joe_solo
Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's the difference between EcmSpy tool and the Vehicle Diagnostic Scan Tool @ americansportbike.com?
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Aussiexbox
Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe-solo...................about 300 bucks.
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Packdog
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Daveymac,

Look again, it has been reorganized.

The stock 2007 fuel map is there and both files from a 2006 that was reflashed to 2007.
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Packdog
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe solo,

There are two versions of the VDSTS software. The less expensive one locks itself to one ECM and can only be used on that one ECM. It also has fewer features than the more expensive one. The cheaper version cannot be used for changing the fuel maps or reflashing the ECM EEPROM.

The more expensive one can handle multiple ECM/bike, but it requires a hardware dongle in order to work. It also unlocks the features that allow you to play with the fuel maps.

ECMSpy is a utility developed by Buell riders in the UK (I think). It does everything that the VDSTS does (and maybe even more). It is a free download, but requires a different cable than the VDSTS.
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Daveymac
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Packdog,
I dont see the .txt file
three files needed to do a total reflash
1. fuel map ending in .msq

2. eeprom ending in .epr
3. text file ending in .TXT

your page at the top has two of three needed?
EcmSpy will not load the eeprom epr file without the corrasponding .TXT file

Can \ Would someone email me this .txt file Please to dwm101857@yahoo.com

Sorry if I sound like a Pain in the A$$,
But if you do a full backup of EEPROM & MAP 3 files are created.
Thanks for your time DaveyMac

(Message edited by daveymac on December 16, 2007)
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Treadmarks
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the fuel map is within the eprom file.

Backup up the EEPROM data
The EEPROM data contains all the read/write data within the ECM. Saving the EEPROM data will save everything, you do not need to save the Fuel Maps separately, except for convenience. All the Fuel Maps, Ignition Maps, TPS value, AFV value etc are contained somewhere within the EEPROM data. All other pages in ECM Spy are simply there to help you find the appropriate part of the EEPROM and understand which values you are modifying.


Instructions here
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Daveymac
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, lets try this again.
I have a 06 loaded with 06 map & eeprom.
I want to flash up to 07.
I can not load 07 file(epr) without the {07.txt}.
which is differant than my {06.txt & .epr} !

Each {.txt} is created with {.epr}
when backing up eeprom with EcmSpy.
Can someone e-mail me there {07 .txt file}.
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Glenn
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Daveymac,

I just sent you the whole set of files. The ones that Packdog posted for the 2007 are from my bike. Let us know how it works.

Glenn
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Daveymac
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got'em Reply in your e-mail
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Tel
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can anyone advise whether domestic ECMs are programmed differently from the Australian models?
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Daveymac
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 05:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Three files needed for 07 Reflash:
application/octet-stream07 eeprom
07 Eprom saved 9-8-07.epr (1.2 k)

text/plain07 eeprom TXT
07Eprom saved 9-8-07.txt (3.8 k)

application/octet-stream07 Fuel Map
07 Fuel Map stock 9-8-07.msq (2.8 k)

With these three files you have 07 reflash
Daveymac
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Vagabond
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SWEEEET!
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Packdog
Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, the complete set of 3 files is now posted on the web site.

Thanks!
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Daveymac
Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 04:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Vagabond
Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe I'm missing something here. I clicked on the three links provided, and a new browser window opened with a bunch of gobbletygook displayed. Can someone please clue me in?
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ECMSPY can read these files. You just don't have the proper program to read them. If you put them in your ecmspy folder then pull them up using ecmspy they should be readable.
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Tomtower
Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi
I have a 07 uly im getting ready to add a Drummer exhaust so im thanking on reflashing to the race ecm is this possible and what is the difference between the two or is this necessary?I also added a K&N air filter.
Does any one have the files for the race ecm? Thanks
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Daveymac
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does any one have the files for the race ecm? Thanks
Go up five or so post's click on the link.

All ecmspy files have to be put in the proper folders within EcmSpy program on your C:\ drive. For the software to see them
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Vagabond
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before I reflash my ECM with the '07 map, I have a question. How much better is the '07 map and new airbox than the '06 with original airbox?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Night and day difference from what i've heard. I ended up going open airbox and full race kit from stock 06 setup, and that also was night and day.
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Bosh
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much better is the '07 map and new airbox than the '06 with original airbox?

I had the 07 reflash done after the 07 airbox install. Before the reflash my fuell economy dropped from around 42 mpg to 32 mpg, the bike didn't feel like it ran right. After the flash everything came back to normal. If you have the new style airbox you need the reflash IMHO.
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Vagabond
Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay. Finally home for a few days.

I got the ECMspy cable, and I have a working connection with my Uly. But, when I try to download the proper maps on my computer (eeprom d-loaded fine) the .txt file, and the .msq file opened a new browser window with the information displayed on there. What program or application am I missing to make this download properly?
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Smcnamara
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vagabond:

Try right-clicking on the link, and choose "Save Target As..."

This should let you save the file to the filesystem rather than having IE open the file internally.

Hope that helps.
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Vagabond
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got it! Thanks.

Being a former Mac user, I tend to forget about the "right click"
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Thespive
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can someone tell me what folder to put those files in?

I am going to update my '06 ECM to the '07 tomorrow, and I also have a Race ECM that I want to try and can use ECM Spy to reset the TPS.

I have a K&N, '07 airbox, and Drummer.

--Sean
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