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Random
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OEM Heated Grips or a nice set of heated gloves for the Uly...that's the question. Any advice would be appreciated because my fingers are about to break off. I've read all the posts on the grips, but haven't seen anyone compare the two. Thanks.
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Joe_solo
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't have grips on the Uly yet. Had them on my Beemer. I am using Widder heated gloves, they plug into the arm chaps on my vest. They seem to work well. With heated grips I used thinner gloves - made riding easier.
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Bigkuri
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that they compared the two pretty recently on either advrider, or UK BEG.

Go for the heated grips. Once installed; forget, no wires, no huge gloves that restrict your finger movement.

Plus if really cold, but some handguard extenders like touratech make.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those are absolutely true observations that I concur with. The grips are the way to go. With just the stock handguards on a Uly, you're hands will be impervious to the cold.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently rode in Buell leather gloves and heated grips in 27* temps with no problems. It's nice not to have to worry about extra wires.
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Maximum
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I say get both!

Actually it depends on what temps you expect to be riding.

I rode last year with temps down to the teens, and with heated grips alone my palms were getting scorched while the tops of my hands and tips of my fingers were frozen. Riding in temps around the mid 30's and higher heated grips with good winter gloves worked great, but below 30 degrees F is when I start feeling uncomfortable.

This year...I am ready...





I ordered these last week from http://www.warmnsafe.com/, and just had them delivered today. I have not had a chance to try 'em out yet, but the fit is excellent and the quality of construction looks superb!





These are designed to be used with grip heaters. The heating elements focus on the top of the hands, leaving the palms thin enough to be heated by the grips and allowing the rider to still have a natural feel of the bike.





They are waterproof, breathable, and feel very comfortable on first try. The down side...of course is the price. The retail price is $169, but Warm N Safe offers a 20% discounts to MSF instructors and graduates! Sure, even with the discount it is a lot of money, but for me it will be worth it if they perform as advertised!

I'll give a full write up following my trip home from Alabama to Colorado next month!
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Bigkuri
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those look like fantastic gloves - interested to know how they work out in practice!
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anybody know the amp draw (or heating watts) of a set of grip heaters? (The grips in question are the ones American Sport Bike sells.)

(Message edited by mikef5000 on November 16, 2007)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

29 degrees this morning, 40 mile commute, polly grip heaters, medium street gloves. 9SX with wind deflectors.

The insides of my hands were toasty warm, the outside of my hands (by the end) were uncomfortably cold, but not permanently damaged. Fairly uncomfortable, but sustainable.

The good thing about the polly heaters is that the only moving component is the on off switch. No dangling wires that move every time you turn the throttle, you can replace the grips without buying new heating elements. And I don't have to connect myself to a wiring harness, just flip a switch on the bike.

Takes them a good 5 minutes to warm up though. Dirt cheap as well, like $30 or less.

Great in terms of usability and cost... not the ultimate in performance.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both, always. Grip heaters allow you to ride with lighter gloves in the cooler weather. Heated goves allow for winter riding if you are a year round commuter such as myself.
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Random
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is great feedback from everyone. I really appreciate it. Maximum, I'll look forward to hearing how those gloves perform.
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Murraebueller
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get both- it will change your life
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Dennis_c
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the heated grips my thumb gets cold the tip does not touch the grip.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the heated grips my thumb gets cold the tip does not touch the grip.

The website Maximum gave for his gloves says the thumb is double wired.
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Adrian_8
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use the Gerbing G3 heated gloves, with them I do not need heated grips and I use the gloves on my other bike too. The gloves keep the back of your hand very warm too.
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Gamdh
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second the Gerbing G3's. I borrowed the gloves and jacket from a friend last winter.
I used them down to 15-19 degrees and did not get uncomfortable. I liked them so much I bought my own for this winter.

When I was riding what I noticed was that my hands were not cold, just comfortable (If that makes sense). Prior to the heated gloves all I could think about was how cold the fingertips were.

I will say the wires are a minor hassle, but really not that bad once you go through the routine a few times.

I do not have the grip heaters, but have put my hands on them.. they felt really hot!
With the gloves.. didn't feel hot or cold.. just comfortable.

I went with the gloves because I tend to hold the grips lightly and have 2 fingers on the brakes which means that my fingers (especially my fingertips) would not be on the grips. So I figured the gloves would suit me best.

Oh.. and I'm sure the grips (and Jacket Liner) cost a lot more than the grip heaters, but so far, it's worth it.

(Message edited by gamdh on November 16, 2007)

(Message edited by gamdh on November 16, 2007)
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Sanchez
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> The heating elements focus on the top of the hands ... $169

Let us know how they work out. They're no more expensive than the Harley heated gloves, and I don't really care for mine. The HD gloves are too thick on the palms, and they have a weird slippery inner liner. They're warm, to be sure, but they're total overkill with the handguards on, and you just can't feel the bike in them.

I rode on the highway in the low 40's last weekend. I cranked the HD heated jacket/pants up to 11 with Joe Rocket Super Ego jacket and Ballistic overpants over them, and I was fine. The tops of my hands got a little chilly in medium winter gloves, but not uncomfortable enough to make me want to put on the HDs.
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have heated grips on all my bikes. Ridden to Daytona from St. Louis three times at 28 degrees. Only once without the heated grips. On the Uly I used the "Oxford heaterz". They have a rotary controller and the wiring is thick and looks very tough. Here are some installed pictures. I now have the touratech extensions which really help.







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Midnightrider
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had heated grips on my Uly but on long trips at highway speed my hands got uncomfortably cold. I took them off and bought a pair of heated gloves and they are much, much, better. I was so impressed with the gloves last year I bought the jacket liner and pants liner this year.

If you have any doubt - borrow a set sometime. One ride is all it takes to convince you.
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did a bunch of cold weather riding recently with heated gloves. They are nice. I also had some raingear gloves which went over them. I'm not sure exactly what they are called, but they are like 3 fingered mittens which come half way up to your elbows. The mittens do a wonderful job of keeping you dry in the rain. What I wasn't expecting is they also do a wonderful job of keeping your hands warm. I assume it's because the mittens keep the wind from directly blowing across your gloves, but it's a substantial difference.
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Hooliken
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gerbing G3s, Jacket liner and sox. Left the house when it was 25F last Saturday. Rode all day with no worries. Being a multi bike owner it is much easier to install a pigtail to the battery then heated grips on every bike I own, have owned and will own. Heatroller is brilliant.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Due to the current state of my bike, I have a brand new in box Buell heated grips kit that hasn't even been opened to look at. MSRP is $187. Appleton price is 168.3 + shipping. I will sell my kit for $160 shipped if anyone is interested. I can post a picture, but it is nothing more than a brown box with a Buell part sticker on it. Drop me a PM.

(Message edited by jmhinkle on November 29, 2007)
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Chadhargis
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The great thing about heated grips is you can use them year round. There are times when I'm riding in the summer with vented summer weight gloves and hit a little shower or it gets dark and my hands get a bit cold. Flip on the heaters and they warm things up fast without even having to stop.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually run my summer gloves as much as I can because they are that much more comfortable than any others I have tried. I use the Polly inserts for heated grips until I can't take the outside freezing and break out the Gerbings.
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Jumpinjewels
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maximum, it's gonna be nice and cold here in Denver so get out there any try those gloves and let us know how they work.

I'm in the market for heated gear and looking for reviews (have a thread on Quick Board)

(Message edited by jumpinjewels on November 29, 2007)
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Maximum
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look for a report by December 22nd, a few days after I return to Denver (weather permitting).
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got to test the polly heaters today for the first real trip(more than a twenty mile round trip). It was 34F this morning when I left. I had on my HD single layer leather gloves. Grips got plenty warm no "low" and on "hi" too hot(should have wrapped them with bacon). The back of my hands got quite cold even with the factory hand guards and my B.A.W. Stopped for gas and switched to Buell winter gloves. Much better, the back of my hands were warmer and the palms protected from cooking.

I wear a HD heated jacket. That, along with the windshield and polly heaters made for a really nice 200 mile ride today with the high temperatures in the upper fifties.

I don't have the heat-troller yet and was wondering if you that have it, did you used to do as I am now doing, just switching them on and off as needed? Is it worth the $ and effort to put it on?
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Hoon
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the standard Polly Heaters without the Heatroller and just cycle the on/off switch as required (the website showed the kit coming with a low/off/high switch which lead me to think I was getting a dual position kit,it was just the standard kit-on/off,boo).
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought some of these last year before buying the Uly heated grips (attached to my new Uly!)
http://www.rei.com/product/661608

They are designed to stick some "hot hands" in but they seem to distribute the heat from the grips very well when worn under my regular riding gloves.
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So........ what are the very BEST heated grips I can fit to my Uly?

I had a serious injury to my right hand almost 3 years ago and I need heat. I use handlebar muffs from October through to March/April

I have to get my gloves made-to-measure so heated gloves are out of the question unfortunately.

Any suggestions? Poly heaters appeal as they are inside the bars, but some people say they are slow to heat up and not very effective. Comments and suggestions please!
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Bigkuri
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've used three types of heated grips - all for more than a year each:
BMW as on 1150GSA
"Oxford" brand heated grips (on a GSXR)
Buell on 2008 Uly

The Buell ones win hands down. They are just so hot. High setting is for ?? I rem someone saying on here that they wished they'd wrapped some bacon around the grips before leaving - they were not kidding.

The right hand grip is always hotter than the left, as the throttle body insulates the heat from the cold handle bar - which should suit you. Heated grips with bar muffs - toasty in anything.

Other than that, there is a thread somewhere on ADRIDER about making your own heated clothing, including gloves. It is not very hard at all. A £20 trip to Maplins would sort you out (that and some needle work on your custom made gloves!).
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Josh_
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2007 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For <$50 the Sympex/Dual-Stars work extremely well. $25-29 for the heat elements, $8 for new grips. If you have a place to mount the included toggle, you're set, otherwise drop as much as $26 to get a bar-mount switch.

I've run the Dual-Stars on my FJR for 3 years, work great, get nice and hot and above 50deg I just use summer gloves.
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