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Hooliken
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

06 w/bags in the slower orange...
Not my ad so not trying to sell anyone. Looks like a good deal.

06 Uly on Ebay
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's only 50 miles from me here in Omaha. Looks like a very clean and mostly unridden ULY.
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Mastros2
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I said the same thing, an '06 with 4600 miles? It's been sheltered!
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I smell Buell Shat.

Clear title???

But you can pay him or the bank???
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Hooliken
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just means that his financial institution is holding the title because he is still paying on it. Bought and sold many bikes that one bank or another had to title for. Never had any issues.
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Wananuly
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bank holds title? No big deal - I sold my 07 Uly after a few weeks. The buyer went with me to the credit union with certified check in hand, c.u. provided a DV form and title release, title would be mailed to new owner, done deal. Happens all the time. Now if the seller was asking for cash to be mailed to a Post Office box, I'd think twice.
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Bank holds title? No big deal"

agreed, but how is that a clear title?
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Cujo
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe clear title means never been totaled. As in a clear title vs salvage title.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe clear title means never been totaled. As in a clear title vs salvage title.

My understanding is a "clear title" is a title with no liens.

Tipsy
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Wananuly
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"agreed, but how is that a clear title?"

You're right - clear title means no liens, bank or otherwise. That would mean title (pink slip) in hand, owner signs and hands over the pink COD. I didn't notice the "Title: Clear" line in the eBay ad.

(Message edited by wananuly on October 17, 2007)
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Gotj
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2006 Buell : Ulysses XB12X
2006 Buell Ulysses XB12X

Year: 2006 Warranty: Existing
Miles: 4600 Engine Size (cc): 1200
Condition: Used Title: Clear
Exterior: Orange VIN Number: --
Type: Sport Touring Model: Ulysses

I lost the ebay formatting but you see what it says. I would offer a hypothesis: he might better have used "clean" or some other adjective in the sense of Cujo; not a salvage title. I agree "clear" means no lien. However, he's not trying to fool anyone because he clearly (pun intended) says you will have to go to the bank to get the title.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"You're right - clear title means no liens, bank or otherwise"

Wrong. Clear title means not salvage or specialty. Free title means no liens against it. Hence his statement of clear title, but you will have to get it from the bank.

Correct statement of a non salvage bike that is owned outright is Free and Clear title.

(Message edited by jmhinkle on October 17, 2007)
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Rubberdown
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why don;t you just ask him the status and what he means. Communication is the key to a successful ebay transaction. I've bought and sold several bikes there.
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Gotj
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Wrong. Clear title means not salvage or specialty. Free title means no liens against it. Hence his statement of clear title, but you will have to get it from the bank."

Jmhinkle, Any reference to back that up? Inquiring minds and all that. Right now it's just one more authoritative statement.

Rubberdown, As I said above, it is in the item description that the bank has the title.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

According to InvestorWords.com.....

Definition -- clear title

A title that is free of liens and legal questions as to ownership of the property. A requirement for the sale of real estate. also called just title or good title or free and clear.
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Gotj
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about. Way too many Holiday Inn Express "authorities" expressing opinions/assumptions as fact.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

investorwords.com doesn't mean shiite to your DMV. Ask them as it varies by state. What I said was given to me by mine in both states of NM and OH. Take a salvage title to the DMV and tell them it's clear, see how you get treated that day. So, yeah, it was an authoritative statement I made relayed to me by the authorities that issue me titles.

For those who need it in internet format:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_title_branding

None (clear) Has not been branded in this jurisdiction. May be a vehicle which has not been in an accident or has been in an accident minor enough that the cost of repair was less than the cost to write off the vehicle. May also be a vehicle which sustained severe damage in some other jurisdiction (if laws between the two differ significantly) or which was damaged and repaired before the introduction of vehicle branding.

Guess that doesn't override investorwords.com though since it was posted first and that makes it a fact.

(Message edited by jmhinkle on October 18, 2007)
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Gotj
Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jmhinkle, I don't think I would have posted anything had you not cut off Wananuly at the knees with "Wrong." You then went on with a pair of global definitions. I just looked up Free and Clear Title and the result is found below. Quite different from your definition. He was expressing his understanding and experience as were you but you were speaking as if yours were the "truth". I was serious about a reference because your definition was new to me. There's no need to call a fellow BadWeber "wrong" unless you can back it up. I'm not doubting your DMV experiences but, as you noted, "it varies by state". So if my DMV gave me a different definition for Clear Title than yours, would that make you wrong? Of course not.


http://www.answers.com/topic/free-and-clear-title? cat=biz-fin


Free and Clear Title
Title to a property without Encumbrances.
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Wananuly
Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Wrong. Clear title means not salvage or specialty. Free title means no liens against it. Hence his statement of clear title, but you will have to get it from the bank."

Wrong? There probably could be, oh say, 24 wrong and 26 right answers to this question, or 12 wrong and 38 right answers or ... you get the picture, given the different definitions of "clear title" used by the states. Since no jurisdiction was mentioned, I relayed California law, per Department of Motor Vehicle definitions, that Clear Title is "free of any encumberances, claims or liens." It further states that for a title to be "clear," all parties listed as registered or legal owners MUST sign a release to interest in the title directly on the certificate of ownership (pink slip in California) for a vehicle title to be considered clear.
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Bearly
Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyway did someone here buy that thing?
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Cccpull
Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is another decent deal for someone in or close to Knoxville Tennessee.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-BUELL-XB12X-Ul ysses-Adventure-1014-miles_W0QQitemZ330177794640QQ ihZ014QQcategoryZ6704QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem
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Sanchez
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, $7300. That makes me cry when I look at my loan balance.
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Gotj
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sanchez, Then be sure NOT to look at the link above to the Knoxville Uly. You might want to hurt yourself.
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Cycletlh
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clear = no liens, Clean = not salvaged.
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