| Author | Message | ||
     Mojoman |
I was REALLY loving my Uly (except for the fan, but I'll take it for the benefits) until after about 500 miles my 08 Uly now surges and stutters under constant throttle and the overall performance seems to be greatly reduced. I'm taking it into the dealer tomorrow but just wondering if anyone has heard of this or had any ideas. The only way to manage the surging is to ride the bike at 4k+ RPM at all times, but even then I experienced some surging a couple times. This will be my last Buell if this becomes a recurring issue. | ||
| Marks3tbillet |
There is another post about 08s surging here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/303160.html?1189428724 Mark | ||
| Khelton |
Good post, Mark, tks..had been wondering about the effect of advancing the timing | ||
| Gsron |
I'm kinda new to the Buell/Harley Motor thing. So here's my question. Why does the TPS and the timing seem to need adjusting all the time. I am am a European car tech and we NEVER have to reset these things unless A. the part is replaced. Or B. some dipshit owner messes with it. Is the Harley motor such a shaker that these items get knocked out of spec or are the parts just so •••••• they wear and need adjustment frequently? I would like to think the TPS and the timing would be set "correctly" at the factory and never need adjusting again. I am/was in the market for a new 08 Uly, but the lack of dealer support and the apparent constant need to adjust things that should never need to be touched are pushing me in other directions...... (Message edited by gsron on September 11, 2007) | ||
| Bienhoabob |
I have 28,000 miles on my '06 Uly. I've only had the TPS reset one time. That was before a trip and I just wanted to be safe. The bike wasn't doing anything abnormal. '08's are supposed to have an automatic TPS reset. Sounds like the bike was not set up properly before it went to the owner. Should be an easy fix. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Sometimes I wish you guys that complain would go to the dealer first and see if you can get things fixed before writing about it on this board. I'd rather hear how you had this problem, they figured it out ( or not ) and now you are happy or pissed off. To me at least, it would be way more instructive for you to wait and write about this after it has been or not been resolved at the dealer. At this point all you have done is scared off potential 08' ULY buyers that monitor this site and it may be something easily resolved ( or it may not be), but you have no idea at this time so why post about it yet?? Just my 10 cents. | ||
| Chadhargis |
While I agree with Electraglider, I see the flip side too. Sometimes, it IS an easy fix, and someone can chime in on how to correct it without a trip to the dealer and being without your bike for an extended amount of time. Heck, I took my rear wheel and forks in to have bad bearings and a leaking fork seal replaced the Tuesday after Labor Day....I STILL don't have them back...a WEEK later. If I'd have had a drift to seat the bearings and a puller to get them out, as well as a fork seal driver, I'd have done it myself in less than 2 hours. | ||
| Court |
Sage advise. You don't know how many times I've leapt knee deep into trying to help a Buell customer, assuming the dealer has come up against some wall, only to find they have never talked to a dealer. THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT IN ANY SITUATION IS YOUR BUELL DEALER. PERIOD. Buell dealers have new and effective technical support from well trained folks at Buell. In addition, ONLY by contacting your dealer can info get to the folks at Buell. Don't flatter yourself, other than sporadic entertainment visits, no one from Halrey-Davidson or Buell is monitoring your problems on the internet. Call your Buell dealer. Court | ||
| Terrible1one3 |
Bad gas? | ||
| Jdw3343 |
I have 1650 miles on my 08 Uly and have had no issues. | ||
| Teeps |
Mojoman Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 This will be my last Buell if this becomes a recurring issue. Threats do little to help the situation either. | ||
| Bearly |
I'm glad I read the posts on Bad Weather Bikers. I went to schedule my Uly in for the Kickstand recall and the tip sensor. The dealer didn't know anything about these recalls. I didn't have a problem with either but because someone did, before I had the issue, I had the recalls done. A long time ago someone complained about their front end "wobbling". I ask the dealer about it and they had no clue. When I ordered the Pirelli Syncs they told me that they could not recommend them because they weren't designed for the bike! (until I asked him to look at that 07 on their showroom floor). I got rid of this problem with the aid of a BWB rider. People were complaining about the noise their fan was making and wondering if it was bad. So before I long trip, my fan was making noise and I had it replaced. In another case, a bunch of people where posting that their rear bearings were going out, so I went out and purchased a bearing puller and was ready with new bearings at home. On a Sunday, one month later, I got a bad rear bearing and changed it. Thanks all for posting and keeping me advised on what to look for on my great machine. This is one great reason to post problems. It is a machine however. If I had to replace my Uly right now, it would be with another Uly. I was reading BWB before I bought my machine and saw several problems before I bought my bike. Thanks Mojoman for the post and keep us informed of the progress good or bad. I'm sure Buell has nothing to hide or be embarrassed about. I know you won't have to change cams at 14000 like my friends Kawi or the Rear diff like my other buddies BMW. Buell folks read problems on here and other sites and come up with fixes all the time. | ||
| Court |
>>>The dealer didn't know anything about these recalls. I'm sorry. I missed the name of the dealership. Court | ||
| Etennuly |
On the other post from the Knowledge Vault, the other '08 was in the dealer, twice now with the answer being that the owner has to learn to ride around the surging. That doesn't seem like a satisfactory fix. I am trying to meet with him to help him confirm the problem to the service department. This in hopes that they will look further into the problem and not just push him off as a fuss budget. The man knows bikes and should be respected as such when a fix for his problem is found. That in itself maybe the problem, the surge issue is known, but a fix isn't known yet. Bearly, I totally agree. Even though my first Buell, a City_X, was flawless, the issues that have plagued my Uly would likely had made me turn away. BadWeb is the reason I have been able to stay with my Ulysses(a bike that I absolutely love to ride). The people I have met here and in the Buell family make me want to pay forward the help and advice I have received. I believe that this surging thing and most any other issue, including a bad attitude, can be remedied with a little patience and help. | ||
| Court |
A dealer said that? Can you give me their name, dealer and customer, so I can confirm from both sides? Seems odd that a dealer, of a brand spanking new $12,000 anything, would say something like that. Court | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Court, No, that's Electraglider advice, my son's name is Sage.  | ||
| Etennuly |
Court, I tried to call him so that you could get first hand information. No luck for now. He will likely respond here though. | ||
| Davo |
If anyone out there has a stock 08 ULy and a VDSTS I would really like to see a log of their highway operation. 2.8K -3.2K RPM at steady highway speed. | ||
| Marks3tbillet |
I'm picking up a new 2007 Uly on Saturday. I previously had a 2000 S3T. I had the Buell race kit and had the TPS reset done after installation. I never had to reset the TPS again in 12,000 miles. I figure the Uly will be similar. I'm not sure why a bike would require more than one reset. If mine has any issues, I'll have the dealer reset and just ride it. I have no plans for exhaust or ECM changes. Mark | ||
| Mojoman |
I'll follow up on this thread after taking it to the dealer and having them look at it and work on it (taking it tomorrow). That way, if the dealer does a great job and acknowledges the problem and fixes it, everyone will know. But hiding the problem is pointless. And, I really hope this works out without being a major pain, because I do love the Uly. | ||
| Hooliken |
Love the threads about problems people have. I have put 5k on my Uly in a couple of months and absolute love it. And I even ride one of the evil 06 black ones. If you do not have the ability to figure out the issue on your own. Get it to the dealer....that is what they are there for. Posturing and saying that "I will never buy another Buell" does not help yours or anyone elses situation. I would buy another in a heartbeat....might be seeing an 1125 in my garage next to my Uly and Softail. | ||
| Miamiuly |
People have the right to be pissed about problems with a brand new vehicle and the right to ask questions or just plain vent if they want too. NEEDING to go back to even a GOOD dealer sucks the fun out of things. I'm still pissed that I have to do something about my bas not being relocated when I bought the bike at end of the year and knowing that 08's were on their way. Still no notice received on that recall either. But I did get my fuell magazine. (Message edited by miamiuly on September 12, 2007) | ||
| Treadmarks |
Miamiuly, I will not do the bas relocation to the area behind the seat latch because that space is being used for something else now. I can't remember if yours is acting up or not, but I followed another badwebbers advice and put a heat barrier under the bas and it has not failed since. I have some heat barrier matting left over if you want to give it a try on yours. | ||
| Red_chili |
I find the issues posting helpful. The rants, the expectation that a mechanical device have no issues ever, not so much. I don't expect a mechanical device to be issue free. So far, I am disappointed! Aside from a ground crimp, my '06 Uly has had none! The dealer (Rocky Mtn. H-D) has been fairly decent in service (a newbie set the idle too high as the Buell tech was on vacation, but he did manage to get the TPS reset). They have been knowledgeable about recalls, but armed with knowledge from this forum I was able to secure a BAS kit before it hit the dealer, and be first in line. There is stronger service knowledge on this board I find. Their parts guys are great, sales is decent if tatooed and earringed and leather clad and do-ragged (although my salesman can wheelie and drag a knee with anyone on his XB9). Waiting two-four weeks for a service appointment, not so good. Due to good business however! My fiddy cents. (Message edited by Red_Chili on September 12, 2007) | ||
| Tipsymcstagger |
Where is the BAS located on the '08 Uly? Tipsy | ||
| Raceautobody |
On a bracket off the seat latch AL | ||
| Garry |
Has anyone with surging issues contacted Buell Customer Service directly? Does Buell admit there is an issue with the 2008s and have a plan to address it? Gotta admit that these teething pains with the 2008 have me more than a little concerned. The new Uly is on the short list for a new bike, but don't really want to deal with issues with no known solution/fix on a new model. | ||
| Ejbeert |
don't know if the 08 has a adjustable idle but if it has it might be worth it to adjust. at least determine if it is correct per the owners manual. my 06 was set too low and turning it up to the correct idle when first started corrected rough idle and drivability problems. | ||
| Hughlysses |
The 2008 does not have an adjustable idle; the ECM controls it automatically. Garry- it sucks about these two bikes but two bikes out of umpteen thousand doesn't necessarily mean it's a wide-spread problem. Hopefully it's something simple that the dealer will be able to quickly fix once they actually look at the problem. | ||
| Garry |
Garry- it sucks about these two bikes but two bikes out of umpteen thousand doesn't necessarily mean it's a wide-spread problem. Hopefully it's something simple that the dealer will be able to quickly fix once they actually look at the problem. I'd be surprised if there are more than a couple hundred on the streets right now, being so new and all. Seems that all big twins (liter plus) have fueling issues at low RPMs when mapped/jetted to meet EPA regs. Hopefully the owners with the problem children will find a solution and get back to enjoying their bikes. It would be nice if Buell could flash the ECU with an "off-road" map or something that has good air-fuel ratios all over. Triumph offered those for use with their "off-road only" exhaust slip-ons. |
