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Andrejs2112
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the tail section the only Buell approved place for the BAS? My dealer said they relocated the BAS, but I can't find it anywhere. I have laid the bike on it's side twice now and it never turned off. I wonder if they just removed it altogether. I'm also wondering if they did the sidestand recall. How do I know?

Thanks,
AR
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AR, I haven't done the recall yet but those who have told me that they put it next to the 12V outlet under the seat, right to the rear of the seat latch. If it's not there then maybe they did just take it out! I'm smelling lawsuit here!!
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Bertotti
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not sure how the bas is wired but imagine that without it it would act like it was laid down and not run.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Creative wiring solves a lot of problems.
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Bertotti
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes if it was a normally closed switch that opened when it feel or vice a versa it could be jumper but I doubt the dealer would do that. A dealer would have way to much liability if that were the case. But the service manager doesn't usually know what a lazy or just bad mech is doing.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure that's not the case. There's probably an explanation for it.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the heat deflector blanket tucked under the bas in the factory 06 location I have not had a bas shutdown. As someone suggested earlier, it seems heat from the engine is whats killing the bas.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Creative wiring solves a lot of problems."

If you know something about this Andre, spill it please. I want to remove my BAS ASAP.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know a lot about creative wiring on audio video systems, but not bikes. Sorry.
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Ulyrider2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Dan,

Coming from a technician of high end imports, I'm speculating that it probably uses a yaw sensor that can:

1. use an internal reed switch to activate the function.

2. use a piezo crystal setup to create a voltage signal to the control module to control the function.

that is the two most used methods of determining lean, pitch, or yaw in automotive scenarios. either way with a wiring diagram in hand this would be an easy removal and creative rewire. I would be concerned about liability issues unless thats just what you want. I'll leave mine but thats just me. more than likely its a three wire sensor but possibly more depending on design. if you have a schematic PM it to me and I'll see if I can't figure it out.
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Stevenknapp
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The service manual is pretty clear on the BAS. What voltages etc are spec (run .25-2.7V, disable 2.8-4.8V). It is a three wire design, and shares sensor power and ground with both the cam sensor and the TPS (can't just hardwire it).

Just a guess, but a resistor network to give the right voltage on the light-green signal wire would do the trick, for testing of course.

Say 20Kohm between LTGRN and the R/W wire, and 10K between the LTGRN and BK/W wire?
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