| Author | Message | ||
     Treadmarks |
Changed mine last year and haven't had a problems since...till this morning. Exact same place, exact same time. Bout 0530 this am. It had been another great flight. About 80-90 for 12-15 minutes. Merged unto another expressway, banged a couple of gears flyin past 100 or 110...then blackout.... Bike was at a slight angle when it happened. nothing on afterwards but the oil light. Flipped the kill switch and let the clutch out and all was well. Scary though. When I replaced the BAS last year, I put in in the factory location. Seems like I recall someone indicating they relocate it for the recall. I will search the forums for more details. | ||
| Captain_nartman |
This's NOT Good. N x | ||
| Bertotti |
When you say factory location do you mean back buy the seat lock (the new location) or up by the battery (the original location). | ||
| Treadmarks |
Up by the battery/ECM. | ||
| Hughlysses |
You need to get the recall done AND have them install a new BAS at the same time. There's evidently too much vibration and/or heat in the original location which causes the BAS to eventually fail. The recall relocates the BAS just behind the seat latch at the back of the under-seat compartment. (Message edited by hughlysses on August 28, 2007) | ||
| Treadmarks |
Ahhhhhh Heat...the new fresh motor with conventional oil is keeping the fan running all the time now.  | ||
| Bienhoabob |
Treadmarks. Here's where you want it. Scroll up a little. www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142838/294 462.html#POST944971 Bob | ||
| Treadmarks |
Oh man o man. I have a fuse panel there, for the deathray and horns. There has got to be another way. I gotta go outside and look at the bike real quick. | ||
| Anonymous |
The problem was with the location, not the sensor itself. Please get the recall / relocation completed by your dealer. | ||
| Miamiuly |
Would have been nice if the stupid recall had been done on my bike that I just bought in july. Really screwed me on my plan to never have to let the dealer touch it, now I can do my 1st service and STILL get to deal with the shop. Great. I don't even expect problems or poor service but it is still a HUGE inconvenience for something that should have been done before sale. It might be nice to get a notice about the recall in the mail too since without this site and ADV, I wouldn't have a clue. At least I got my Fuell magazine though. Good thing the bike is as fun as it is or a few of the details would have me down on it. Belt was rubbing guard, puck peeling, triple tail discolored, looks like wax? BAS not relocated... | ||
| Davo |
I don't think the dealer thing is in Treadmark's future. | ||
| Florida_lime |
Anonymous said "The problem was with the location, not the sensor itself. Please get the recall / relocation completed by your dealer." Then why has my '07 with the relocated BAS quit 13 times total ? Kill switch re-cycle and all is well... for a while. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
OK Mr. Anonymous, sir, just how do we go about eliminating these evil BAS's from our beloved machines? Hmmm? Seriously. I want it off my bike. | ||
| Miamiuly |
I had that thought too, a resistor of the correct value should do. I already had to reach over and shut the bike off when I slipped in the mud hole, maybe I was just quicker than the bas. Wish they could just send the bracket and wire harness out, I mean the bike was delivered unfixed so if I sign UPS for the part then it is in my lap. As it is, I technically don't know that the problem exists because I bought an 07 on 7/08/07 so surely the problem, that I only know of due to the net, was fixed before the bike was delivered to me right....not. If I hadn't seen pictures of the relocated bas, or for that matter surfed the web, I wouldn't even know of the situation and that mine wasn't done. So basically, until I receive a recall notice, it is in Buell's lap. For all I know they redesigned the bas mid year and mine should still be in it's stock location. Still love the bike but this and the fact that my belt was rubbing the guard and had "walked" on the pulley before I got home has me a little let down. It's not so much on the bike itself but more of a, "Why can't an American Product be delivered with the same fit and finish of a Japanese product?" I do remember when it was the other way around. I know they have issues sometimes too, but not so much in my personal experience. I almost forgot about razor knifing the extra plastic peels from edges of the faux tank near the fuel fill. I used to work in a body shop, details pop out to me, it's a curse and a blessing. | ||
| Snowscum |
That belt thing sounds like you need a new tensioner pulley. Coming from experience. Yes I went round and round with my dealer about that issue. Dave from Appletons had to get involved to resolve the issue. | ||
| Miamiuly |
funny thing is when I realized what was happening, I "delicately" encouraged the belt back into place, at least closer to the inner edge of the hub and flush with the outer edge, and it has stayed. I'm watching it, any damage has been done already. If I have any real issues, I am fairly confident the dealer will be okay- I just didn't want to HAVE to go back to them. I planned to do my 1000mi service, already bought the software and cable for tps resets so I still will do the service, but to deal with warranty I have to make calls, go visit maybe, and then take the bike in. Tedium, like sitting in traffic in a car when I could be splitting lanes on a bike. (Message edited by miamiuly on August 28, 2007) (Message edited by miamiuly on August 28, 2007) | ||
| Panhead_dan |
If one studies the evolution of the motorcycle as it pertains to a BAS, one would find that the kill switch is located on the right side and the ign sw is located on the left. This is not by accident but due to evolution. Because of this wonderful system of events, WE DON'T NEED NO BAS! doesnt anyone know how i can rid my ride of this evil device? | ||
| Bertotti |
I bought mine on 06-07-07 and the bas was relocated. Mine did work when I laid it down parking but not until it pivoted on the side case a couple inches. I think the bike has to be just past hard contact before it will work. | ||
| Treadmarks |
Anony, I believe ya, and I believe in ya...But like the wise Davo says "I don't think the dealer thing is in Treadmark's future." Davo, you know me too well.  Miamiuly, I feel your pain brother. Details are everything for me as well. I wish we had the option of requesting the repair to fix it ourselves to. I have far too much money, time and love invested in my Uly to go drop it off with hose A or hose B and hope that it gets fixed. Good luck with your Uly issues. Panhead, I'm with ya man. I want that stinkin BAS gone, period. It is possible that a sudden loss of power could be the last thing one remembers after some cager following too close ran over his ass. I will eliminate the device from my bike since this is the second one that has failed me. I'm sure it is just a location issue as there is way too much heat in the factory location. I may try to deflect the heat in an effort to preserve the BAS and ECM for now, but I will have to ride the beast with a reduced level of confidence until the known defective device/design is removed from the equation. Just having the dealer install a relocation bracket is not a satisfactory solution, nor would it increase my level of confidence in the bike. After searching and reading the archives as well as the above posts, I see no evidence that the "fix" is an acceptable solution to a serious design flaw. I'd rather turn it off after I dropped it, that drop it (or worse) because it turned it's self off. On a good note, I did take it easy this morning (under 100...mostly) and it did not shut off on me. The 1250 Stage 1 micron is performing flawlessly and this baby is running better everyday. I have never seen nor owned, a v-twin that loves to float so effortlessly in the upper rpms. I am considering installing the XB9 primary gearing in an attempt to keep my speed down... just a little bit. Tis a shame something as simple as the BAS is kinkin mah chubby.  | ||
| Ftd |
Regarding the heat in the battery, BAS, ECM area. I am running a RSS and recently made a heatshield out of cardboard and reflective duct tape that mimicks the modified Odie in this photo. It directs the hot air flow down the shock opening and out the side vents. The underseat area is much cooler now. I also put some of the reflective tape under my stock '06 seat. That has helped reduce seat temp significantly too. FYI I am in central FL is I really needed some temp. reduction in these areas. Frank  | ||
| Treadmarks |
Thanks for taking the time to post this Ftd. Nice mod to Odie's blanket. I only installed my under the airbox blanket since the fresh engine. I have the heat reflective matting installed on the bottom of my 07 seat too. The corbin seat does a better job in keeping the heat off the butt for me, so I have not bothered to tape it yet. I will try the Ftd nip and tuck on my blanket tonight and see if that helps. For me the hottest part of the bike was the right side frame/tank, even when I had the rss on it. Since I applied the heat reflective matting to the bottom of the right side frame/tank the left side is now the hottest??? Go figure. I should have did them both! | ||
| Panhead_dan |
My warrantee will be expired soon. I intend to remove the BAS soon after. All I need is some wiring info and to know that it won't screw up the ECM. | ||
| Treadmarks |
Ftd, I did your nip and tuck trick last night and it seems much cooler on the way in this morning. I hit the same section of road over 115 and no issues at all. Fan was running full speed when I pulled into work, but the seat was nice and cool. On s similar note, frame temps before after my usual ride home in rush hour traffic were: With RSS and Odie's blankets 132 right and 118 left, fan hardly ever runs. Without RSS and with fresh engine, conventional oil, ceramic headers and heat barrier on right side is 115 right and 110 left, fan runs most the time. | ||
| Treadmarks |
Ftd, I did your nip and tuck trick last night and it seems much cooler on the way in this morning. I hit the same section of road over 115 and no issues at all. Fan was running full speed when I pulled into work, but the seat was nice and cool. On s similar note, frame temps before after my usual ride home in rush hour traffic were: With RSS and Odie's blankets 132 right and 118 left, fan hardly ever runs. Without RSS and with fresh engine, conventional oil, ceramic headers and heat barrier on right side is 115 right and 110 left, fan runs most the time. |
