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Fwiw
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been looking at after market auxiliary tanks. This guy (http://www.sampson-sporttouring.com/fuel-cells.htm l) has an interesting idea.

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I'm considering having one made for a Uly. I'm thinking a smaller tank (3 gal or so) that is shorter might do the trick.

Thoughts?
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Chris_in_tn
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My only concern would be how far back it is and the leverage it would create on the short wheel base Uly.
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Flynuly
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you mount your tank low you will have to add a fuel pump. I like the KISS principle and use gravity to transfer from the aux tank. Just something to consider with the sampson setup.


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Lduly
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've always been a fan of the K.I.S.S philosophy. Keep it simple stupid. IMHO a gravity system is much easier. I mounted a five gallon Jaz cell to the Happy-Trails back rack for my trip to Alaska. I'd post picts of the setup but the bike is at the dealer for a new fan, rear wheel spacer, and a bag latch. Here is a pict. from the trip.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Running a less tech version, I loose some bag room, but when I am trail riding I really need the gas more. I just put the red gas jugs inside the cases, water on the other side to balance the load. Pic of pelican cases on profile. (never loads from home)
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Bienhoabob
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lduly,
It looks like a MNLD Riders B2B sticker on your fuel cell.
I was on that ride, too. On a Road Glide that crapped out in all rain around Wichita Kansas. I'll have to try it again, but next time on a Uly.

Bob
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Fwiw
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Flynuly - what tank are you using?
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Stevem123
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw one of those rear-mounted tanks on a beemer. The guy commutes from Phoenix AZ to the Bay Area a couple times a month!
Nice setup.
I think it would work on the Uly without an extra fuel pump by running it to the drain plug at the bottom of the fuel pump since it's at a pretty low point on the bike.
You might be right about the added rear weight causing wheelies to be more of a problem.

BC Steve
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Lduly
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob, I helped organize the ride and went down a day early to set-up the Hotel and such. That was one of the best rides I have done. I was one day ahead of the weather. Good luck at the Buffalo, I have to work or I'd be there. Ride Safe
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Windrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW,

I am just curious why you want to carry more fuel?

Out on the road I can usually get right at 200 miles before the fuel light lights up which gives a range to walking of 220 - 240 miles. I believe that this should work about anywhere in the US outside of AK?

Just curious.
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Fwiw
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am just curious why you want to carry more fuel?

I am planning two rides in Canada. One is to Radisson, Quebec. The James Bay road is 388 miles long with one gas stop at mile 236. I suppose if I held my mouth just right, I'd make it...

Then I want to ride the Trans-Labrador Highway. It has several stretches that are exceptionally long. So does Quebec Hwy 389 from Labrador City south to Baie Comeau.

Seems to me a cushion of safety is warranted!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it just me, or does it seem that the lower rear mounted tank is remindful of the Ford Pinto?
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Bertotti
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

220 to 240 miles I haven't seen yet. I get my light at around d 150 to 160 miles then a fill up takes about 3.5 gallons. I may have to pack a gallon jug some time to see how far I can go after the light comes on.
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Flynuly
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fwiw-
It's a Summit Racing Equipment 5 gal aluminum drag racing fuel cell with foam to prevent sloshing. They are available in a 3 gal size for around $120 or so. Mounted on a Tour-tech aft rack with 2" sq aluminum stock spacer to allow for the angled sump. Ran the line into the fuel pump plug (THANKS BIENHOABOB for the tip).
Tim
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Bertotti
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does a 3.5 gallon tank and 3.5 gallons of gas weigh?
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Fwiw
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does a 3.5 gallon tank and 3.5 gallons of gas weigh?

Roughly 6 lb / gal or 21 lbs.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This just my 2 cents. It would be neat to make a tank that fit where the foam of the rear seat resides. Bolt it right to the rear seat pan and make it tall enough to hold 4 or 5 gallons. It would be light enough to not even be noticed because of it's placement within the load triangle.
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Bertotti
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

21 lbs plus the weight of the tank. I thought the buell racks would only hold 11 lbs.
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Dgunther
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought the buell racks would only hold 11 lbs.

11 corporate lawyer pounds. How much is that in real weight?
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Loveall13
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I built a custom aluminum tank that holds 3.25 gallons (with foam) to sit on my tripletail when it is flipped forward. The cell snaps in to the holes in the top of the tripletail and is held down with straps. I have had great luck with it and do not ever notice it is back there while riding. It is also convenient for quick fill ups.

Why do I need a fuel cell? I love to ride in LD rallies (you can't always find a gas station open at 2am), and less fuel stops allow for more bonus hunting.

Jeremy
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Fwiw
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeremy - would you mind share the details of your custom tank? Sounds like a winner!
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