| Author | Message | ||
     Iugradmark |
Many have already ordered their heat deflectors. I was wondering if folks have or are going to retrofit any other changes from 2008 models to their bikes. I am interested in the heated grips and would love to hear thoughts on whether the beefed up oil cooler would benefit our earlier models. | ||
| Atoms |
I have not ruled out getting the blue plastic. | ||
| Trapper |
I ordered the heat deflectors and heated grips a couple weeks ago. The heat shields came in a couple of days, however the grips did not come in the same shipment. I called my dealer, again, today and they said now they do not expect the heated grips until the third week in August. So, if you want them before this Fall, I would suggest getting them ordered, soon! | ||
| Xbimmer |
I'm gonna order the right side control switch and the Blue stuff. The heat on the leg has never been an issue for me so I doubt I'll get the deflectors. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Why? I already upgraded everything. | ||
| Iugradmark |
Trapper, Was your dealer able to explain how the heated grips will install? | ||
| Red_chili |
FWIW, the heat deflectors work well, even improving Odie's blanket on the right side. Haven't installed or needed the left side. For $28 from Andy they are overpriced for two molded pieces of plastic, but looking at it from a change-for-the-buck perspective, well worth it. So what are the advantages of the heated grip kit versus, say, a Polly kit? How much $$$? | ||
| Hughlysses |
They've already said the oil cooler is non-retrofittable, which is probably just because of the new oil fittings used. I imagine you could install one if you got custom hoses made up. On the new heat deflectors, I came up with a minor change that I think is a significant improvement. I moved the rear brake reservoir out from under the seat (the new location is similar to that on tubers). This gives a lot more area for airflow out through the ride side deflector. I sealed off the semi-circular opening in the right side deflector which isn't needed since the reservoir's not there any longer. I also took my Special Ops heat blanket, cut it down, and pressed it down in front of and around the ECM. This forces most of the hot air from the engine cooling fan out of the two deflector outlets and out of the space around the rear shock. The seat seems to stay noticeably cooler and the bike will go significantly farther before the fan kicks on. See pics in this thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/295156.html?1185930777 | ||
| Ulywife |
M2nc posted this on another thread, but I think it fits in on this thread as well. Has anyone with the an '06 & '07 Uly try the '08 heat deflectors? I am noticing that the fan is running less. I rode with Webe last weekend and I noticed that my fan did not come on all day while riding. It was in the mid-80°F and I was riding two up. Webe was solo and when we returned home from our 180 mile ride both our fans came on when we turned the bike off, but my fan shut off within a minute while his ran for several more minutes. I rode to work last Friday and when I turned the bike off at work, the fan did not come on. I thought the fan was not working because that is the first time I can remember the fan not running after the 11 mile ride in mid-60 temps. Riding home that day, the fan never came on. I took the long way home and after some 20 miles in high-80°F temperatures the fan did not come on until I got home and turn the bike off. Today I jumped on the bike and took off to see if I truly had a fan problem. I rode around the country side but the fan would only come on when I shut the bike off. Finally I rode to Greenville (The largest city in my neck of the woods) and rode for almost an hour in town with no fan except when I would turn off the bike. Finally after an hour in stop light traffic in low 80°F temps the fan came on and stayed on all the way home. Anyone else noticing the same? | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
The 08' has a stronger oil pump that probably is necessary for the added pressure drop across the input and output of the 08' oil cooler. Every time a fluid like water or oil runs around a corner or longer length of pipe it causes turbulence and this causes pressure drop and it adds up. The 07' engine internals expect a certain amount of oil pressure for spray cooling and lubrication and this might be compromised by adding the 08' oil cooler. I certainly don't know for a fact that this pressure drop through the 08' cooler compared to the 06' cooler is significant but it might be. Maybe that is why they didn't make it so it could be fitted to our older models. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on July 31, 2007) | ||
| Bertotti |
I keep thinking it would be nice to have the front end on my 07. I am thinking the cost would to much for me to consider it. | ||
| Adrian_8 |
My HD has a thermometer on the dipstick, and when it is 90+ degrees outside and I check the temp the oil will run around 212 degrees. I have quickly checked the ULY with this same thermometer when I get home and the 06 ULY is no more than 180 degrees, I feel the 06 oil cooler is just fine. | ||
| Teeps |
These air deflectors everyone is talking about, do they create a vacuuming effect to assist with drawing air from under the seat? | ||
| Alchemy |
Teeps, Great question. There are some doing some interesting testing on Uly heat. It would seem it might be that air flow off the rear head would be improved with these deflectors but I have not seen much in the way of facts. Anecdotal comments seem to suggest that they help however. Any of these design changes that can improve the cooling are appealing. I wish they could be perfected and bundled into a kit by some vendor and offered to the community. I would sure buy one if the facts supported their effectiveness. It can only help the life of the fan and improve the rider experience. I would love to see an electronic solution that is tied to speed and runs the fan at speeds above say 40 mph and a (lower) trigger temperature. This would keep the engine cooler longer and run the fan less when the speeds are slower (or stopped). Even a quiet secondary fan might offer some interesting options. The fan doesn't bother me at higher speed but it does at low speed where I hear it more. A few physical tweeks and some electronic programming could offer some improved experience. | ||
| Trapper |
Iugradmark, I did not ask how they would install. It is listed as a kit and when I have got other installation "Kits" from HD/Buell, they have included all needed instructions and wires/fittings to complete the install. I will post the instructions when I receive them. | ||
| Jprovo |
I'll be installing a 2008 front end, heated grips and air deflectors on my 2006 as soon as I get the parts... | ||
| Alchemy |
Jprovo, I am with you. I am interested in the expense of upgrading the front end. Should be cheaper than a new bike but a bit of a hassle I would guess. Maybe put on a wave rotor and possibly look at other shock options if available. | ||
| Bienhoabob |
I took off the Ollie heat shield and put the '08 deflectors on my '06. Right side only, (I have a fuel cell fuel line running though the left side opening and didn't feel like rerouting it). I used to get that warm burning feeling while wearing Levis. Now while wearing Levis or even thin Columbia fiber pants, there is no heat issues. Temps have been in the upper 80's- low 90's. Fan seems to only run after I shut it off. Big improvement for a $26 kit. | ||
| Bertotti |
Jprovo have you ordered the parts yet? I was wondering how the new front end would affect the wiring harness behind the fly screen. Does the fly screen on the 08 extend a little farther out from the bike because of the offset and mover trees? I think it would be worth a grand in parts, maybe even a little more, just for the extra steering. (Message edited by Bertotti on August 02, 2007) | ||
| Jprovo |
I''m waiting for my parts catalog to come in to finalise the order. I hate starting a job, and finding out I need an extra screw or something. Based on the numbers I have it's about $800-$1000 in parts. I need to replace the front end on my 2006 (freeway accident), and the fork tubes for the 08 cost less than the 06!! | ||
| Bertotti |
08 less the 06, that seems odd. I wonder are the 47mm tubes more common? I hope you take some pics of the process, it would be interesting to see how it goes. | ||
| Alchemy |
Aren't these the same tubes they are using on the 1125R? Maybe they got a better price on a LARGER order. | ||
| Too_tall_todd |
while talking to my dealer he said that there were "major improvements" in the fuel delivery and fuel control which make the 08 run much more smooth. Is this true? he is a harly guy so what he tells me about Buells does tend to be somewhat suspect.can these mods if they exist be done to my 06? | ||
| Hughlysses |
while talking to my dealer he said that there were "major improvements" in the fuel delivery and fuel control which make the 08 run much more smooth. Is this true? he is a harly guy so what he tells me about Buells does tend to be somewhat suspect.can these mods if they exist be done to my 06? The 08's have a new fuel injection system and a new ignition trigger arrangement. The FI system doesn't require idle speed adjustments or TPS resets. I think you'd get into a situation of "to replace component A, you must replace component B, which means you must also replace component C" etc., etc. The new FI system works with a new ECM which is set up to work with the new ignition trigger arrangement, which probably only fits on the new 0.25 inch larger crankshaft, which only works with the new oil pump, which probably requires new engine cases and connecting rods. I don't think there's any easy way to retrofit. | ||
| Too_tall_todd |
UR never mind, sorry I asked. | ||
| Teeps |
Hughlysses Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 The 08's have a new fuel injection system and a new ignition trigger arrangement. I don't think there's any easy way to retrofit. Gas cap swap...  | ||
| Court |
Can someone direct me to that HD document that detailed the 2008MY changes? | ||
| Packdog |
Hey Court, I have the 2008MY Technical Forum in .pdf if that is what you are looking for. Just PM me if you want it. -Ron | ||
| Court |
That's it. . . Please mail . . thanks. |
