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911_racer
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so how deep of water can these machines tolerate? I have seen pics of GS's crossing rivers that are very very deep. on the Buell the air intake, battery etc are mounted pretty high up but what about the wiring?
how deep have you gone?
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Lorazepam
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would be more concerned with the wheel bearings than the wiring.
The wiring is run along the inside of the frame on the left side, and is above the level of the battery and ecm.
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Paochow
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had mine through a few crossings, most about a foot or two deep. I have noticed the Uly tosses water up more in front into the cockpit that my DRZ which tends to push it away to the sides.

Here's a few pictures to demonstrate..



It almost seems like the Uly could use a longer beak to better control the water.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can tell it needs more front fender coverage any time I ride in the rain !

Hitting puddles at night really show the lack of coverage; the headlights show it all in the spray.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode through here half a dozen times (hey there was a camera!) covered the wheels. Was nailing it on exit and rarking up.
I was trying to do a wheelie (not very hard unfortunately - for which after the event I'm kicking myself), but it kept braking traction in the water and stepping out.
But if I haada got it up before dipping ;-P


The STT got some water in the electrical connector in front of the front pulley in this crossing.

It revealed a bent pin in that connector plug. We alerted the powers and Court has been following up to ensure it was just a once off.

Me - I like splashes - sometimes I'll g for a ride after heavy rain just to ride through the puddles.

You call me immature again and I'll hold my breath OK.
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911_racer
Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey cool pics. i guess no one has had many problems due to deep h20. thats good. I have put my Cannondale dirt bike through some water that was over 3 feet deep and the water started to make the fuel pump cut in and out but it still kept running! some of the water crossing at the places I like to ride can get pretty deep at times and i would rather find out the limits from someone else rather than me! LOL..
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Ridetherejk
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fat 17" tire pushes more water up rather than out. The taller and narrower 19" pushes less water up and more water out. The 21" skinny tire on dirt bikes pushes more water out and less up. The wider the tire, the more water has to be moved. The taller tire has a higher center line; water pushes out rather than up. Look at the 2 pictures from Paochow to see what I mean. Imagine a little scooter with its tiny tires going thru the same water crossing.
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911_racer
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried to ride a 25cc rental scooter across a small river when I was in Holland a few years ago. BAD IDEA!! dont try it! with the engine and drive system hanging off the bottom of the scoot it quickly sucked water. ok drag scoot out of water, turn upside down, drain water out, turn back over, pull spark plug, re-install plug and kick kick kick!!! return scoot to rental place saying "it started running funny I dont know why". I still think that was one of the most fun days ever! we were scooter hooligans for shure!
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Jameslaugesen
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It'll handle water fine, everything is up high, and all the connections are fairly well sealed (most have double or triple flanges).
I also spray every electrical component with a decent coating of lanolin.

I've done a few fun river crossings.
Deepest would be just below the upper front fender.

I agree the biggest problem is the water spray in front. Going faster doesn't help, eventually you just have a wall of water blocking your view haha.

Hoon (with the Rat Uly) has relocated his upper fender down low, like a traditional one.
That's a good idea I think. But I wonder if the tyre is still able to throw off mud/water before making contact again.
I am planning to move mine lower, but maybe still have it set ~5cm above the wheel, so -hopefuly- mud will still be thrown off the tyre reasonably early.

Here's a video of my Uly and I crossing a very slippery rocky creek.
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-911455 0806442135267
It was good fun, but lose rocks (which seem to enjoy denting my frame) make me very nervous.
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Hoon
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sweet video,I might have the balls to rat my Uly but I respect yours to ride off road properly like you do.
Love the way the sound is non-existant with the exhaust under water but sounds properly rorty once you're out the other side.
More vids like this please.

I had to watch it a couple of times just for the sound as you climbed the bank.

(Message edited by hoon on July 25, 2007)
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Jameslaugesen
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you liked it.
Sorry, I don't have many other good videos... I'm working on it. It's hard to have the presence of mind & time to stop and film things.

Here's my friends through the same crossing, just for a difference perspective.
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-662661 2944887108414&hl=en-AU
And here's on on the track, filming from my Uly; http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-883872 3825057765810&hl=en-AU
Taking it easy for the first few minutes riding with my friend, then I give it a squirt around the 6min mark.

Quality is very poor with glare on the cheap cameras. I need to make some shade tubes.
But it's still an Uly, and you can hear it : )
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Lorazepam
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I admire you adventurous types doing the off road stuff. I guess I am too old to be picking up the uly when I biff (lots, if I ride with a group I know) , and too poor to replace stuff when it breaks.

The Uly is just too much fun on the road. It is so easy to ride and eats lousy pavement, of which we have lots here. Riding long distances is effortless on the Uly.

It will be remembered in time as a ground breaking motorcycle.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lorazepam,

What you said....100%....ya young bastard!
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