| Author | Message | ||
     Court |
Gosh . . I can't contain my excitement. I'm going to go ahead, start the thread and get ready. HP be damned. . . I see myself as a "Uly kinda guy".  | ||
| Maximum |
Way to go Court...there will be no turning back. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I can't see myself trading my 07 any time soon, but I'll be very interested to see what upgrades they have, especially if they can be fitted to the earlier bikes. Here's one that's visible:  This photo is of an 08 XB12STT from the "Maximum Homecoming" thread. The updated XBRR type oil pump is clearly visible on the right side of the engine. I guess that also means the ignition trigger is on the left end of the crank also per the XBRR. Cool stuff! | ||
| Iugradmark |
Court, Ditto for me. I have a 2007 and my complaints are things that I think Buell may have finally sorted out. Excessive vibration, cooling, loud fan that runs all the time seem to be the main things holding this bike back. If they have sorted out these items and (keep your fingers crossed) we can retrofit to current bikes I will be very happy. The movement to new motors, horsepower, etc. is exciting but not for me. Hopefully more details on the changes to the air cooled engines will be forthcoming. | ||
| Broads |
The only reason I'm not riding one now is the "Heat" issue. Fix that and I go into debt. Wouldn't mind seeing a little more fuel cap either. One more thing, don't change to some high maint high tech motor, in fact I wished the current one had a carb...lol. | ||
| Chadleys1 |
The fact that Court is excited for we Uly owners bodes very well for us on this 2008 announcement day. I am having a hard time staying on task, as every ten minutes I run back to the computer to see if anything new has popped up. What if we get a 19" front? (Message edited by chadleys1 on July 08, 2007) | ||
| Court |
>>>>I am having a hard time staying on task That's two of us and I'll be spending more time with you guys! I'm off the charts excited about the new bike (providing of course, later today, there actually **IS** a new bike ) and I love the David and Goliath element as Buell drafts past "the big boys" and brings some incredible technology to the playing field. No one apologies for anything anymore. The American kids who hot rodded '57 Chevy's, went to the world's finest schools and have an unparalleled command (I mean they wrote at least one of the text books) of the technology have cast a hat in the ring that shares NOTHING (that's not a single part) with anything previously produced. But, for me personally, I am lusting at that 2008 Ulysses. Giving a 53 year old new track shoes will never make me a 4 minute miler. But . . man oh man . . . finally the Barricade Orange vs. Black question is answered! I am in LUST! We got cool colors and a boat load of improvement . . . CONSUMER DEBT HERE I COME! | ||
| Iugradmark |
Court, With all of the excitement over the new racing bike, the air cooled bikes have been overshadowed (for good reason). Any idea on when the specifics of what has been updated will be made official? | ||
| Chadleys1 |
Whoooot!!  | ||
| Az_m2 |
I hope retrofitting new parts is possible. Can't wait to see what the new Ulys have to offer. | ||
| Michael1 |
Please don't do this to me... If the new 08 is that vastly improved, I'll be forced to try and sell my 06 (that's now dropping in resale value as we speak). Man, I sure hope it doesn't have a 19" front and better heat dissapation (my only gripes with my Uly).... | ||
| Az_m2 |
I'm looking for a quieter fan, please ?  No plans to get rid of my Uly, it's got a lot more life in it. | ||
| Chadleys1 |
They already started spilling the beans over on Quick Board. This is from Crusty, who says he got a look at the assembly line. -heated grips -new forks -engine mods, ignition, intake, oil pump -colors | ||
| Kip |
also for the uly is a plastic heat shield on the right side. It should be able to fit older ulys. | ||
| Court |
It was kind of cool . . . Buell, as folks walked through the factory, was producing 2008 models. There was a running wager on how long it would take folks to notice. The good news is that the cam side of the engine was facing traffic. . . advantage to the visiting owner. I'm having to have my heart rate monitored today! | ||
| Old_mil |
new forks Does this equate with shorter forks/a lower bike?} | ||
| Dbahm |
Hey Chadley, get back to work! Oh yeah, maybe I should do the same. | ||
| Paochow |
Specs are up on the Buell site... http://buell.com/en_us/bikes/adventure/xb12x/featu res.asp Still a 5speed with 4.4 gal, but lots of little upgrades. | ||
| Florida_lime |
Can anyone cut and paste the specs/changes ? I cannot access buell.com here at work due to the flash requirement. Thanks ! | ||
| Paochow |
MSRP U.S. Units Metric Units Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (1) $11,495 $11,495 Top of Page Dimensions U.S. Units Metric Units Overall Length (2) 85.0 in. 2158 mm Overall Width (3) 35.1 in. 892 mm Seat Height: Standard (4) 31.8 in. 808 mm Low Profile N/A N/A Ground Clearance (2) 6.75 in. 171 mm Rake (at Steering Head) (4) 23.5° 23.5° Fork Angle (4) 22.0° 22.0° Lean Angle: Soft Contact, Right (5) 39° 39° Soft Contact, Left (5) 39° 39° Hard Contact, Right (5) 43° 43° Hard Contact, Left (5) 40° 40° Trail (4) 4.8 in. 122 mm Wheelbase (2) 54.1 in. 1374 mm Tires: Type (6) Pirelli® Pirelli® Front (6) Scorpion Sync (model) Scorpion Sync (model) 120/70 ZR-17 (specifications) 120/70 ZR-17 (specifications) Rear (6) Scorpion Sync (model) Scorpion Sync (model) 180/55 ZR-17 (specifications) 180/55 ZR-17 (specifications) Fuel Capacity 4.40 gal. 16.7 L Reserve Fuel Capacity 0.83 gal. 3.1 L MPG (EPA urban/highway test) (7): Urban 51 MPG 4.6 L/100 km Highway 64 MPG 3.7 L/100 km Weight: Dry Weight 425 lbs. 193 kg Gross Rating 950 lbs. 431 kg Load Capacity 455 lbs. 206 kg Top of Page Engine U.S. Units Metric Units Engine Air/oil/fan-cooled 1203cc Thunderstorm® V-Twin Air/oil/fan-cooled 1203cc Thunderstorm® V-Twin Valve Train OHV, two valves per cylinder, self-adjusting OHV, two valves per cylinder, self-adjusting Bore x Stroke: Bore 3.500 in. 88.90 mm Stroke 3.812 in. 96.82 mm Displacement 73.4 cu. in. 1203 cc Compression Ratio 10.0:1 10.0:1 Fuel Delivery 49 mm down draft DDFI III fuel injection 49 mm down draft DDFI III fuel injection Intake (Air Cleaner for Blast®) Zero-resistance airbox Zero-resistance airbox Exhaust Tuned, tri-pass resonance chamber with InterActive valve and mass-centralized mounting Tuned, tri-pass resonance chamber with InterActive valve and mass-centralized mounting Torque (North America per SAE J607) 84 ft. lbs. @ 6000 RPM 114 NM @ 6000 RPM Horsepower (North America per SAE J607) 103 HP @ 6800 RPM 103 HP @ 6800 RPM Lubrication Dry-sump Dry-sump Oil Capacity (Lubrication for Blast®) 2.5 qts. 2.4 L Oil Filtration Screw-on disposable element Screw-on disposable element Top of Page Drivetrain U.S. Units Metric Units Primary Drive Chain, 1.500:1 (57/38) ratio Chain, 1.500:1 (57/38) ratio Final Drive (8) Constant path, 14 mm pitch aramid-reinforced Goodyear® Hibrex® belt with Flexten® Plus technology, 2.407:1 (65/27) ratio Constant path, 14 mm pitch aramid-reinforced Goodyear® Hibrex® belt with Flexten® Plus technology, 2.407:1 (65/27) ratio Clutch Wet, multi-plate, compensated Wet, multi-plate, compensated Transmission 5-speed, helical gear 5-speed, helical gear Overall Ratio: 1st 2.648 2.648 2nd 1.892 1.892 3rd 1.407 1.407 4th 1.166 1.166 5th 1.000 1.000 6th N/A N/A Top of Page Chassis(6) U.S. Units Metric Units Frame Aluminum frame with Uniplanar™ powertrain vibration isolation system, fuel in frame Aluminum frame with Uniplanar™ powertrain vibration isolation system, fuel in frame Front Fork (6) 47 mm Showa® inverted forks with rearward offset axle, adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload 47 mm Showa® inverted forks with rearward offset axle, adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload Rear Shock (6) Showa® coil-over monoshock with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload Showa® coil-over monoshock with adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload Wheels: Color Magnesium Tone Powdercoat Magnesium Tone Powdercoat Front Reinforced XB-type 6-spoke, ZTL™ cast aluminum (type) Reinforced XB-type 6-spoke, ZTL™ cast aluminum (type) 17 in. (diameter) 432 mm (diameter) 3.5 in. (width) 89 mm (width) Rear Reinforced XB-type 6-spoke, cast aluminum (type) Reinforced XB-type 6-spoke, cast aluminum (type) 17 in. (diameter) 432 mm (diameter) 5.5 in. (width) 140 mm (width) Brakes: Front ZTL™-type brake, 6-piston, fixed caliper, 375 mm single sided, inside-out, stainless steel, floating rotor ZTL™-type brake, 6-piston, fixed caliper, 375 mm single sided, inside-out, stainless steel, floating rotor Rear Single piston, floating caliper; 240 mm stainless steel, fixed rotor Single piston, floating caliper; 240 mm stainless steel, fixed rotor Suspension Travel: Front 6.51 in. 165 mm Rear 6.38 in. 162 mm Top of Page Electric U.S. Units Metric Units Battery Sealed lead acid, maintenance-free, 12V, 12 amp/hour, 200 cca (per Battery Council International Rating) Sealed lead acid, maintenance-free, 12V, 12 amp/hour, 200 cca (per Battery Council International Rating) Charging 30-amp, permanent magnet, single-phase alternator with solid-state regulator (405W @3000 rpm, 405W peak) 30-amp, permanent magnet, single-phase alternator with solid-state regulator (405W @3000 rpm, 405W peak) Starting 1.2 kW electric with solenoid shift starter motor engagement 1.2 kW electric with solenoid shift starter motor engagement Lights: (as per country regulation) Headlamps Type Twin Quartz Halogen [H7] Twin Quartz Halogen [H7] Headlamps Description 55-watt low beam, 55-watt high beam 55-watt low beam, 55-watt high beam Tail/Stop Lights LED 0.36W/3.36W LED 0.36W/3.36W Turn Signal Lights 10W manual canceling 10W manual canceling License Plate Light 5W 5W Top of Page Styling/Convenience U.S. Units Metric Units Instruments Electronic speedometer, tachometer, odometer; dual resettable tripmeter; high beam, neutral, oil, low fuel (plus, odometer shows miles traveled on reserve), turn signal and engine diagnostic indicator lamps; clock Electronic speedometer, tachometer, odometer; dual resettable tripmeter; high beam, neutral, oil, low fuel (plus, odometer shows miles traveled on reserve), turn signal and engine diagnostic indicator lamps; clock Top of Page Colors U.S. Units Metric Units Available Colors (9) New Thrust Blue, Barricade Orange, Midnight Black New Thrust Blue, Barricade Orange, Midnight Black Top of Page Warranty U.S. Units Metric Units Warranty 24 months (unlimited mileage) 24 months (unlimited mileage) Top of Page Footnotes Specifications for non-U.S. markets might differ. Buell reserves the right to discontinue models or change specifications at any time without incurring any obligations. Vehicle specifications may vary from country to country depending on local laws. Some models are not available in certain countries. 1 Prices may be subject to change without notice and rule as at the date of delivery. See your dealer for details. 2 Unladen, wet configuration (no rider, all fluids). 3 Without mirrors. 4 Laden, wet configuration (design rider, all fluids). 5 Bottomed-out configuration (100% suspension compression). 6 Kevlar®, Showa®, Dunlop® and Pirelli® are registered trademarks of their respective owners. 7 Based on tests conducted under lab conditions per U.S. E.P.A. test procedures. Mileage will vary depending on personal riding habits, weather conditions, trip length and vehicle condition. 8 Hibrex® and Flexten® are registered trademarks of the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company. 9 Availability may vary from dealer to dealer, and is subject to change without notice. | ||
| Bertotti |
47mm showas on the 08 and not the 43 that is on the 07, Why I like my front shocks I just need to dial them in a bit. Maybe I read the specs wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what the site says. Almost 2 bills for the heated grips, I will go after market. The air flow deflectors for 27 seem reasonable but I wonder if it will cook the passenger now. Nice blue color but these changes won't cause me to upgrade my 07 anytime soon. And I'll use these for the heated grips http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?S creen=PROD&Product_Code=16025&Category_Code=cgid I wonder how the engine changes affect performance? anyone know about that? | ||
| Paochow |
Looks like the forks are up 4mm to 47mm, with a rear offset axle, perhaps for more steering lock. The alternator is down 8amps to 30. I sure hope this is a typo, as having a larger one was nice for extra lights, heated grips/vest, etc. Blue color looks very cool. Too bad it's by far the slowest of the three.  | ||
| Paochow |
Ouch $187 I see what you mean. I'll stick with my Polly Heaters and Heatroller for less than half that price. | ||
| Florida_lime |
Thanks Paochow, Do they show the Thrust blue ?  The minor updates I can live with (my 07 is 2 months new), but blue sounds nice ! The possibility of a 6 speed '08 was my biggest hesitation before buying my '07. I did notice the 47mm forks with the negative offset in the description; your thoughts make sense. (Message edited by florida_lime on July 08, 2007) | ||
| Nobody |
The improvements to the engine sound pretty sweet. http://buell.com/en_us/news_events/newsdetail.asp? news_id=1236 Summary: A new ECM and engine sensors eliminate TPS resets and may reduce timing problems! | ||
| Greenagain |
New Front End on XB12X Ulysses The XB12X Ulysses adventure sportbike has new off-set 47 mm inverted front forks and robust off-set triple clamps that reduce fork flex under hard braking. Steering sweep is increased from 54 to 74 degrees for improved low-speed off-road maneuverability, and the Ulysses now comes with standard heated hand grips. | ||
| Greenagain |
Thunderstorm V-Twin Updates Buell advances the performance of its air/oil/fan-cooled Thunderstorm V-Twin engine series with a larger crank pin, an improved oiling system, and a new electronic timing system and ECM that controls an all new DDFI 3 fuel injection system. Combined, these changes improve drivability and performance, and reduce service maintenance costs. The Thunderstorm V-Twin engine powers all models in the Buell XB platform. | ||
| Jammin_joules |
Steering sweep lock-to-lock is increased to 74 degrees from 54 degrees to reduce the turning radius in off-road low-speed maneuvers. New off-set triple clamps maintain the 23.5 degree rake and 4.8 inch trail. New air guides positioned on the tail section of the Ulysses deflect engine heat away from the rider’s legs. Modifications to the 1203 Thunderstorm V-Twin engine enhance performance, reduce maintenance, and allow a new redline limit. For 2008 the Thunderstorm 1203 redline is increased to 7100 rpm from 6800 rpm, giving this engine an even broader powerband, and riders the ability to accelerate longer and downshift at a higher rpm. The instrument panel styling is refreshed and the tachometer reflects the new 7100-rpm redline. A commemorative Buell 25th Anniversary graphic with Erik Buell’s signature is placed on the handlebar clamp. New 47mm front forks replace the previous 43 mm forks. Secured with a new triple clamp design, this new front end improves the torsional rigidity of the entire chassis. Fork flex is reduced during hard braking for improved stability and feedback. The timer cover is eliminated, as the engine is now crank timed from a new crank position sensor, which eliminates the need for manual timing, reducing maintenance costs. The ECM actively monitors and adjusts timing based on driving environment. The new sensor makes 30 reads per revolution, compared to the previous two reads per revolution, for more precise control of fuel mapping and timing to conditions. More Robust Crankpins - the size of the crankpins is increased to 1.50 inches from 1.25 inches. Oiling System Upgraded - A higher-output oil pump supports oiling to the new crankpin area. The new pump is driven off of the crank, a design based on the Buell XBRR production racing motorcycle. A new eight-row oil cooler offers enhanced cooling performance. All oil line ends are now equipped with Jiffy-tite fittings. New DDFI 3 ECM (Engine Control Module) with increased computing capacity. DDFI 3 actively controls and monitors the TPS (throttle position sensor), IAC (idle air control), and timing. DDFI 3 automatically zeros the TPS and adjusts fuel metering for smoother idle, eliminating service intervals and reducing the cost of ownership. A new progressive throttle cam and new throttle cables provide smoother throttle input from stops, and less rotation to full throttle. Heated hand grips are now standard equipment on the 2008 Ulysses. The grips are rated at 18 watts per side on the High setting and 11 watts per side on the Low setting. | ||
| Danger_dave |
As you know, your worship, I don't need much to get me enthusiastic about a Uly - It's my company vehicle and it's a good time to turn it over - so I'm in. And I need 147 horsepower like I need another 50 demerit points. Uly Mechanically Wise Tally ho - all for it. Rider-wise. Seems they've largely fixed a whole lot of stuff I didn't have an issue with any way. Turning circle has never bothered me. I ride it on the front wheel only often and apart from stuffing the bearing been quite comfy with the forks. But good news - in the engineering I trust. Heated hand grips standard - spot the designers that live in the fridge! Like a hole in my gloves do I need heated hand grips. Toasty leg I wear leather mostly and don't notice it. But I'm glad - it'll shut FB's target weak pussies up. 'I bought a .... cause I couldn't turn the Buell around'. The ones that I really feel sorry for - the ones that missed out on one of the funnest bikes ever because 'ooooohwaaaar ...it's got a fan.' How about some proper dirt road tyres and an optional muffler guard to get me really sporting wood. (Message edited by danger_dave on July 08, 2007) | ||
| Orangeulius |
Yeah as nice as all the refinements sound I'll stick with my 06. I went through the pain of sorting through the first year production blue's with multiple electrical problems etc. But for the last 8 months my Uly has been trouble free and just plain fun to ride. Maybe when they come out with a dirt bike I'll pick up a second Buell. But my 06 Uly is a keeper. Besides, I can always tell 08 Uly owners stories like " I remember when my Uly (fill in the blank)..." |
