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Muppet
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Guys,

Just found you after seeing a link on ADVrider. I've just ordered myself a brand new Uly. It's an 06 model, but I guess that doesn't matter much. I pick it up next weekend - coming from a GS1100 and I'm sooooo looking forward to getting this bike.

I live in the South West of England (Wiltshire) and for my first ride I'm going up to Scotland for a weekend to run it in (I think you guys say break it in?). Then after it's first service it's off to South of France and Italy next month with a bunch of guys to really get to know it.

Any of you guys got any good advice for breaking in a new bike as I've never had one before and never had a Buell. Really appreciate your tips on the best way to bed this bike in and get the best out of her.

Thanks
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check this out:http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

I did it and my bike is fine. Changed my oil at 120 miles. It looked like it needed it. I was apprehensive at first, but I talked to several guys I trusted and went ahead and did it. You'll love the bike! I don't want to stop riding mine. Take care!

P.S.
Mine shook like mad and sputtered for the first few miles at stops. It went away soon after. They say the engines get better and better. Mine is smoother now than new. I only have 300 miles at this point.

(Message edited by andrejs2112 on April 07, 2007)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Muppet,

Congratulations. You will not be disappointed!

I think you will find that website full of valuable information.

If you chose to do that break in method, I would suggest you change your oil at 50, 500, and 1,000 miles. I would do the primary fluid as well.

You will experience the greatest amount of metal in the first 1,000 miles. Oil and primary fluid are cheap. Change them both frequently during the first 1,000 miles.

I wouldn't switch to synthetic until the 5,000 mile. I personally don't use anything but Formula+ in the primary, but you will hear differently from many here. Use your own judgment.

You will need to have a proper TPS reset and idle set done at the 1,000 mile service. Make sure that it is done at the proper temperature. A TPS reset on a cold bike is worse than none at all.

Enjoy your new ride. It get's sweeter with every mile. Mine has 8,500 miles on it and it runs better now than it did new.
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Aussiexbox
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well done Muppet,since ya going over to Italy,and all why not give it an extra run,say down through the continent,over the water and down to the land where you guys reckon ya sent all ya convicts(Guess who got the better deal......lol)that'd break her in for ya,and the weather's fine too!Happy Buelling from Oz......Oh and don't forget the big V-Twin Grin.....lol
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Chadhargis
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Motoman break in is the way to go.

Following the factory method is nothing less than silly. I've been to the factory. I've seen what they do to the bikes at the end of the assembly line. It involves a dyno, and WOT to redline in several gears. They don't keep it below 4000 rpm...I promise you.
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Gotj
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !! " Motoman

If that's true, there are probably only a select few buyers that will have the opportunity to actually benefit from the procedure. They would have to know about it before they rode the bike home, assuming it did not already have more that twenty test ride miles on it. Most will just feel good about doing it that way as do those that believe in following the factory procedure.
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Maximum
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got my bike with 5 miles on it and used the Motoman break in technique too.

At almost 5000 miles, I have consumed zero oil and have had no engine problems at all.

But as a side benefit, it was a lot more fun than following the owners manual break in instructions!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All bikes have 5 miles on them from the factory.

Mine did as well.
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Lovematt
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got my bike with just over 150 miles on it as it was a demo bike...I figure it probably went through the motoman style of break in by more than one person.

I did my normal routine of starting out with light loads and low revs for 1000 miles increasing both until at 1000 I was regularly getting up to 4000 RPM going onto the freeway. I continued that increasing load/RPM rate until about 1500 miles where I figured it was broken in to my satisfaction.

Just over 32,000 miles now and not a single problem with the motor that I can tell. It uses hardly any oil...if I have to add 2 ounces between oil changes that is a lot.

That being said...I can also see how the Motoman method could work...however I have a routine that has worked on over 10 bikes and numerous hot rods up until now. Perhaps I might try the Motoman on a bike that was bought with purely disposable income...

(Message edited by lovematt on April 07, 2007)
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Muppet
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 03:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the welcome guys, good to hear some conflicting advice on breaking it in , I expected nothing less. I'm very tempted to go for the Motoman method, it does kinda make sense to me, but there's a huge part of me that says "whoa! that's gonna do a new engine no good at all". I'll have a think and let you know when I pick it up. I've got the opportunity to do it as the bike has just a few miles on the clock and the ride home from the dealer is about 40 miles.

Will definitely be changing the oil at 50 & 500, then at 1,000 it's back to the shop for the first dealer service. Do you guys have that over there? I guess they'll do any necessary adjustments (thanks for the heads up Ft_Bastard) but I'll double check to make sure.

Getting very excited now..
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Congratulations! You're really going to love your new Uly. The more miles you put on, the better it's going to get.
The Factory changed its recommended break in (run in) procedure for 2007 to something closer to what Motorman advises; which gives it more validity in my eyes.
I hope you're prepared for the pain you'll be having in your cheeks from all the smiling you'll be doing.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All bikes have 5 miles on them from the factory.

My odometer read 1 mile when I picked it up. Maybe they forgot to run mine before it left the factory. Do they reset the OD?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe it's because you are closer to the factory! ;)

I don't know, but I have never seen one with less than 5 miles before. I have seen 8 brand new non-demo models on sales floors. They all had almost exactly the same miles (within a tenth).

Could be they new I was a fat bastard and knew 1 mile of break in wouldn't do it.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine was probably so intimidating the techs peed their pants just looking at it.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen several with 4 miles on them including mine. Maybe the final build day has something to do with it. 1 mile is probably a Friday bike and 5 miles are the Monday bikes. All the rest fall in between. There is definitely a certain amount put on at the factory for the run it, but they do get ran around a little after that before you actually take ownership. That would explain the variance in new miles.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe that's why my rear master cylinder fell off at 100 miles. Buell did take care of it in short order. No worries.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I broke mine in the motoman method and have no regrets. It would have been near impossible to have broken it in per the instruction manual. I never smell oil burning nor see any puffs of oil on startups. I used to break my bikes in like they were made of glass and none of them ever ran for shiite. I broke the Electraglide in per Harley instructions and that bike burned oil for more than 5,000 miles. They said that was normal. I've got 42,000+ on it now and it doesn't seem to burn a drop anymore. I just wonder if I'd broke it in the motoman method if it would have run better from the git go. I now believe it would have instead of taking darn near forever to seat the rings.
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Adamd
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I generally take it easy for 50 miles,usually do an oil change. Then no holds barred.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they test the bikes on a set of rolling wheels just before packaging them at the factory. I don't know how many miles it is but they do run them for awhile and watch the computer screen that the bike is connected to. I watched the Uly being built last year at homecoming's plant tour.
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