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Irelage
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I am ready to upgrade from the KLR650. The Dealer has an 06 for 10,169 and an '07 for 11,495.

The '06 has the '07 seat, and the recall work done. Both new.

Is there anything I should know about before purchasing the Uly? Are they both pretty much the same machine?

Thanks
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 07 has an improved oil pump (more scavenging capacity), an air box lid with more openings, and a slightly improved calibration on the fuel injection. The 07 has Pirelli Scorpion Sync tires which by 99% of accounts are vastly better than the Dunlops on the 06.

Ride 'em both and see if the differences are worth ~$1000+ to you.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I feel that you could certainly demand a better price on the 06, but the 07 is a little high also, especially if they are going to add shipping and set-up charges to the price.
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Oddsc
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would make sure they put the Pirelli's on the 06 if you're going for that one. I didn't even wait to wear out my Dunlops before replacing them, and when I did it was like a new bike, much more stable and planted. The Dunlops were way too sketchy, I can't believe they weren't recalled.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Dunlop 616s lasted 7500 miles and my '06 Uly was dead nuts stable at all speeds up to 100 MPH. I know that a lot of people like to badmouth the Dunlops, but my only bitch was that I like my tires to last 10,000 miles or more.
My Uly has over 18,000 miles and is problem free. Try to talk the dealer down to an even 10K, then just try to keep the silly grin off your face when you ride away.
Oh, make sure you get the sexier orange bike.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BLACK IS FASTER!!
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having a late '06 and a few complaints about it and mostly converting it to an '07 on my own, I would say go with the '07. Either way, the price is too high on both. You can get a better deal elsewhere if they won't come down on it.

BTW, I too was a KLR650 convert. I even planned on keeping the KLR after buying the Uly. When I hadn't ridden the KLR a single time in two months after buying the Uly, I sold her to someone that could enjoy her more. Loved the KLR, but don't miss it one bit.

(Message edited by jmhinkle on April 06, 2007)
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Brad1445
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the 07!
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Irelage
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you for all your input. I will go for the Orange 2007 today. I am calling dealers to find out who has one ready to roll.

Get ready for tons of newbie questions on breakin and such.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get ready for tons of newbie questions on breakin and such.

Good deal. On the break-in: read your owner's manual. The 07 recommended break-in is MUCH closer to "Motoman" than the 06 and earlier version.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Something the manual doesn't say that I think is just as important as the style of break-in is when to change oil. I did the 50-500-1000 oil changes on the engine and tranny going to synthetic at 1K and was amazed at what came out of there. I'm glad someone recommended that to me. If I remember right, it was Mr. Burrito Plate himself, Fat Bastard.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I followed the Motoman break-in and my bike runs great. Very strong, burns hardly any oil, and doesn't ping.
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Thunderbox
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto what Chadhargis said. I never had to add oil to it yet between oil changes and I went once to 5500 miles.
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Augie_dogie
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the mileage on the O6?
Check the classifieds here and the flea market in ADVrider.

There are some really good deals out there is you can go private party.

For instance: rhttp://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21 7486
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Ihavemanyfleas
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if it were up to me, I would go with the 07. I haven't heard any complaints there, and if you're going to spend hard earned cash, why take the gamble?
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Adamd
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a KLR too : ) Enjoy the Uly! Get the 07!
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Brwkcw
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excuse my late "newbie" question, but what is the "Motoman" break in.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Read all about it here:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Irelage,

Better deals can be had at other dealers.

I bought an 06 in june of last year for $10,400.

Shop globally, service locally.
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Paochow
Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with Crusty: I'm about to purchase my third 616 rear. Aside from the quick wear rates, I'm very satisfied with them. Had them up to the rev limiter in 5th many times (oops) and they are very stable, granted I'm used to ridding knobbies on the street at speed.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you guys still using the 616 fronts? When my rear 616 is finally done, the front will get changed too because it just sucks. That weird swimming, wandering feeling has to go. It is a shame, because the tire looks like it would go to 12k easily. I actually liked the rear 616 up until I hit about 3k on it and it started wearing funny and feeling squirmy. Upping the pressure a few pounds over the recommended helped for now. It still has decent tread depth and should last to about 6k, but I'm searching hard for replacements and I'm not sure what to get.
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Aussiexbox
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 04:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey,don't forget the 07 has improved front springs as well to stop diving under brakes,it has the lower seat height,(But I still went for the tall one)so after having both models I would take the 07.
Oh and by the way you guys don't bloody pay enough for ya bikes,I just did a rough conversion to our Aussie dollar and you'd be paying around $13000 AUD,we actually pay just on the $18 to 19,000 for the bike then add ORC,so ya'll got it good,wish we could get em that cheap.
But in esence get the 07,it's got all the 06 mods done to it without having to do it yourself.
Aussie,Aussie,Aussie,Oi,Oi,Oi
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Irelage
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought the 07. Oh my God this is fantastic! I am in heaven. This machine is extraordinary . I am so glad I didn't get the BMW GS. $11K in California.
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Paochow
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Congrats on the purchase. I'm loving mine more and more with every ride. Did some two up gravel roads yesterday and was amazed with the control I had. I don't think my wife liked me jumping the crossroads though.

Jmhinkle: I've done a bunch of long highway stints on my DRZ @80mph+ so the 616 seems very stable in comparison
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