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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a new set of the Avon Storm ST's mounted for MBIV, so I started with a completely new tire that still had mold release on it when I left home.

I ran the tire 850 miles from doorstep to doorstep. It was rock steady.

Dual Compound:

The center compound appears to be harder than the Azaro the Storm replaces. This is good since I was getting just shy of 3,000 miles from the Azaros.

The side compound is the real magic. The Azaros were pretty good (Mike the Bike beats his like a rented mule!) for cornering. They were not as sticky as other tires, but they were predictable and didn't slip or let go without letting you know they "were not comfortable with the current situation". The Storm ST's compound on the edges was noticeably stickier. I pushed them harder than I have the Azaros and the D616s before that and they never once let go. The only issues were with "tar snakes". They seemed a little squirmier than the Azaros with the tar.


Wet traction:

I was surprised at how well they stuck in the rain. The new Storms are supposed to have slightly higher silica content in the center compound than the Azaros. It showed. I didn't have a single wet road slip. I was pretty tentative at first, but by the end of the wet road section, I was able to follow a nearly normal pace.


Would I buy it again?

So far so good. The real question for me is durability. I'm interested to see what the mileage is from these tires. My front tires seem to be good for 10,000 miles, but the rears have been dead by 3,000. If I could get 4,000, it would be a 25% improvement.

If I get an improvement in mileage, I will buy these again for sure.
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Chrisb
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The guy that has an image for everything doesnt post a pic of the tires on his bike?

Thanks for the report.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would, but it's dirty. Gotta clean it up a bit. ;)
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Ikeman
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's SUPPOSED to be dirty!

Jeez...
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Windrider
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FT,

Thanks for the review.

Please add some pics when you can and update it when you pull them off so we can see how many miles they rolled. I think that the dual compound tire is a great idea.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HELLOOOOOOO! ANAL RETENTIVE!!!!!
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Hootis29
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just mounted some Diztenza's anybody tried them yet?

I won't be able for a few days, just got 6" of snow : (
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Hootis29
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





Its only a 160, but still fits good.
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Chrisb
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OOhhhh Distanza's I'm jealous!
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Ulendo
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hootis - what are you running for a front with that?
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Lorazepam
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

another distanzia in 120/70 17. They are advertising the distanzia in 160/60 and 120/70 17 as a supermoto tire. I have a set on my R80ST, and they are fine in all weather.
I have a set in the garage waiting to be put on my Uly when the Shinkos are done.
I wish I had gotten a softer compound than the Shinko Raven 009, they are wearing like iron, but handle like it too. I have reduced the pressure to 37/39 and it has helped, but they arent near as sticky as I would like.

I am guessing the rear will last at least 8k maybe 10k miles, the rear has 5k and lots of tread left.
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ft_b probably doesn't want you to see his center wear and chicken strips! He has to clean them with a good degreaser then armor all them!!


"Gotta clean it first"......crazy I tell ya.......he rides the twistiest roads in the country and he has to hide the chicken strips!..............clean it first.........that's nuts.......
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You want pictures? Here's your pictures!



































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Windrider
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootis29,

Those Distanzas look pretty good for a bit of dirt and gravel. Please report how they do on the Uly once the snow melts for you.
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do like them pretty gold rims!
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Paochow
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You want pictures? Here's your pictures!

is that all you've got}
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh man.....don't ever present him with that question!! Ahhhhhhkkkkk!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will show restraint......I....will.....shooow......restrrraa innnnnt!!!!!!
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Chadhargis
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have those tires been used yet??

I think any wear on those tires is from rolling them across my garage floor before I mounted them for you. LOL!

: )

(Message edited by chadhargis on April 05, 2007)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can personally attest that:

(a) The gold wheels do look sweet on that Uly.
(b) Those tires have been thoroughly leaned on throughout a Wolfpen Gap Road/129/19/60 loop starting and ending at TWO.

(I had the good fortune to ride along with M2nc and Ft_bstrd at MB IV on Saturday afternoon.)
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Dragon_slayer
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's amazing what a good Scotchbrite pad can do!
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ft_b

Mebby your tire wear issue is over! You have over 900 miles on these and unless you just smokem' off doing burn outs it looks like you might get 4000 plus! What do you think?

Oh yeah, he was running a little light, as the gas build up from the burrito platter hadn't let loose yet.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dunno about the mileage, but I would say that they are much less worn in much less time than the Azaros.

We shall see. I was impressed with them for sure.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm interested to see how they do. I've been very impressed with the Diablo Strada, so I'd have to see something miraculous to make me change brands.
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Adrian_8
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just put on a new rear Avon ST.. 0 miles; replaced an Avon Azaro. I got more mileage out of the Avon than the Syncs, Dumblops, and the Michelin Pilot Roads. I liked the Azaro so here goes an ST.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can anyone top this...?

I'm replacing a rear Azaro AV46 with the new 56. But get this...I got 9,000 miles of this Azaro! I usually get around 8,000 or so...fronts double that.

Yeah, it helps that I weight 145 lb and ride like an old lady. Except through the corners.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

145lbs?

That's what the burrito I ate for lunch weighed! ;)

That's amazing Dr. Greg!
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



"I've got lumps of corn in me crap bigger than 'em"
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>I got 9,000 miles of this Azaro!<<

I got 3,500 and hated the way they go off for the last third of their life.

The Storms make a big deal of 'life of the tyre' so I guess I ain't R Crusoe.

I'll try the new ones for the upcoming Winter and the no dirt season
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree completely Dave.

I was looking for an excuse to bag the tire for the last 25% of it's life. As soon as the wear bars appeared, I was pulling it off. It sucked!

I'm hoping that the dual compound rubber will make a difference.
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Tel
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any further updates on the Storm STs? I've been checking out Michelin Pilot Road2 and Metzeler Roadtec Z6s. Michelin's are not available at the moment. I'm leaning towards the Avons over the Metzeler product.
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