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Paochow
Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I finally received most of the Touratech parts to armor up my race pipe. (missing a few bolts for the engine guard, but TT customer service was on the ball.) I've been thinking of taking the Uly up some nice fireroads to Cloudcroft, NM, but last time I went on the DRZ the route had it's fair share of 1'-2' river crossings.

Since the stock uly pipe was designed w/ water crossings in mind, I was wondering how the race pipe will fare in the same situations? Anyone submerged their race exhaust yet?

I would guess with the engine running it would throw up one heck of a spray. But how about when I slam that hidden boulder with the front tire and stall out?

Thanks for the help.
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Paochow
Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone drive their Race pipe through a deep puddle even?
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Paochow
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Splashed water on it with a hose?


(Ben Stein voice): Bueller, Bueller?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

0.o I'm getting a race pipe put on my Uly as we speak, now I'm wondering. Oh well, if the roads flood out again here soon ill give you an answer. : )
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Brat
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had both wheels/tyres submerged for about 15 feet through a ditch, didn't stop her, did sound funny at the time! No adverse affects since!
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Someone explain this to me, because I really don't have much experience riding off road.

Since the muffler is under the bike, and the headers are way above it. Why would it matter if the muffler was under water? Even if you stopped the engine and the muffler filled up with water, wouldn't it just blow all the water out when you started it?

As long as you don't get the Ulysses in so deep that it sucks water into the intake (which is pretty high), then wouldn't it just keep on running? (only then it would be water cooled! LOL!).
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you were to let it quit under water the muffler will fill up and it is likely that it won't restart due to the pressure required to blow the water back out.

I have done this before on other bikes. To get it restarted would require getting the bike out of the water and elevating the front so that the water runs out of the tail pipe.

When making water crossings it doesn't matter if it goes under water as long as the RPMs are kept high enough to maintain more exhaust pressure than outside water pressure.

With the muffler full of water, in the event of stalling, trying to restart with it full can cause blown exhaust seals, and or blown head gaskets due to the extreme pressures that build up by 'plugging' the exhaust.

That is also part of the reason for a many chambered exhaust can. It will take some time for the water to completely infiltrate the muffler so in the event that it would stall under water, restart it immediatly and keep it running, before the water has the time it needs to totally fill the can.

(Message edited by etennuly on April 06, 2007)
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Jim_sb
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the stock pipe - riding near the hot springs in the mountains outside of Santa Barbara there was an area where the stream crosses the road (paved underneath).

Anyway with my feet on the pegs I was underwater up to my ankles for a distance of about 60 feet. No worries.

I would not expect the race pipe to have a problem either.

IF for whatever reason your bike starts to go down shut the engine off ASAP!

I saw my buddies XR650 making bubbles as it went down in the Sisquoc River. <g>

Best,

Jim in Santa Barbara
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to have a 4 wheeler when I was a kid and I'd ride across water...not just through it. Due to the tires, it floated. : )

Once, I got the idea that it would make a good fishing boat. I tried to fish off of it, and the damn thing capsized. It floated upside down too. : ) I pushed it to the shore, righted it, and it started right up after water blew out of the exhaust for the first few cranks. LOL! : )

Heck, I was 12 years old...I didn't know any better.
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Paochow
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Once, I got the idea that it would make a good fishing boat. I tried to fish off of it, and the damn thing capsized. It floated upside down too. : ) I pushed it to the shore, righted it, and it started right up after water blew out of the exhaust for the first few cranks. LOL! : )





Thanks for the all the replies. I'll give it a try and watch the spray.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah...that 4 wheeler was pull start too. The only think that ever went wrong with is was the pull start broke and I had to bump start it. Dad wouldn't pay to get it fixed, and my lawn mowing money wasn't much back then.

Here's exacty what she looked like:



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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you were to let it quit under water the muffler will fill up and it is likely that it won't restart due to the pressure required to blow the water back out.

Except that they designed it so it would start. : )

One of their tests was to shut off the bike with the muffler under water and let it sit for 15 minutes. Then crank it back up.
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Paochow
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard they did that with the stock pipe, but was unsure if that applies to the race exhaust.
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