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Nutsosane
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A razor sharp piece of rock pierced the center of a main tread block yesterday resulting in an evil hiss. A few friends came to my rescue with a mushroom plug. My instinct is to replace the tire but with only 700 miles on it that's gonna hurt the wallet. I would also like to run a set of Pirelli Scorpion Syncs next, this creates another difficulty. With the 616's being hard to find I might just go NUTS.

How long has anyone run a plug in their Uly rear? I know there are some hardcore maniacs out here who run 10 psi, for 20k, in the snow, uphill, both ways. If so I've got a set of tires for sale; only 700 miles, barely broken in; mushroom plug included.

Is anyone running a plugged tire? NUTS
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plugged my Dunlop D616 at 1100 miles and it now has 8000 on it. I might chance tires at my 10,000 service since the motorcycle is already going to be in the shop, but they still could run some more miles. I like my Dunlops, they work out great for super traction when the roads are wet. I haven't ridden off road any with them yet, but maybe this summer I'll get on the trails up in Northern Wisconsin.
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Stevenknapp
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you remove the tire and install the plug/patch from the inside I'd run it til it was worn out.

A friend did this. When the tire was worn, he cut the tire in 1/2 and it was amazing how good the plug really was in there.
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Jlnance
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nuts, I put at least 1500 miles on a plugged D616.
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Adamd
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've run plugged mud kings on my old jeep, to patched tubes on a klr.

Go for it.
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Rubberdown
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you don't have it patched from the inside, I'd use the rubber-rope type of exterior plug, I've seen the steel cord cut right through the rubber mushroom type plugs.
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Scooter808484
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nuts, I had the same problem on a brand new Metzler. Plugged it with a string plug. Almost 3000 miles later and I've never had to add air.
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Nutsosane
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far no one says "get a new tire or you're gonna die!" which is nice. Thanks for all the input, I'll be wrestling with this for a few days. My brother claims to know a guy who knows a guy blah, blah, blah... tires at wholesale cost. If that goes through the 616's will be donated to someone braver than me. NUTS
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Windrider
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nuts,

I think a lot of it depends upon your riding style. If you need S rated tires for a reason then you probably should get a new tire. If you keep your speeds to the legal range and you did a good job with the plug then you can probably run for many miles.

The way that I look at it, the worst thing that could happen is that the plug could come out and the tire will deflate... you should be able to ride out a tire deflation anyhow.

It all depends upon your preference for speed, your tolerance of risk, and how quickly your wallet is drawn out of your pocket. In my case, I will run a plugged tire as long as any tire, I just keep an eye on it.

If you want to be absolutely safe don't go on the highway at all... in anything.



My 2 cents at full face value.
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Scooter808484
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was scared,too. In fact I had replaced the original 616 with 1200 miles, then 200 miles later big old flooring nail got in it.

I plugged it and just kept a real close eye on it. Like I said, I haven't even added air in 3000 miles.
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Stevenknapp
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The way that I look at it, the worst thing that could happen is that the plug could come out and the tire will deflate...

Which is common with the stop-n-go plugs. Less common with the rope plugs. And freakin' impossible with the from the inside plug-patch things.
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Thunderbox
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As long as there is no indication of a deformity just plug it and ride it. I run a police garage and we use plugs and to this date in over 55 million kms we have yet to have a plug fail. We do a lot of tire plugging.

Dealers will tell you different but hey they want to sell you a tire. A well designed plug becomes part of the tire very shortly. Heat will not effect then so the speed rating has nothing to do with it.
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Dennis_c
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug = good New tire =$$$ I have ran a plug down to no tread I always use the sticky rope type from NAPA. I have done that several times over the last 20 years.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you keep your speeds to the legal range and you did a good job with the plug then you can probably run for many miles.

NUTS, i think i did a "good job" with the plug, but if you want to donate your tires to someone, i could sure use a set of gnarlier meats on the Road King... ;)

FB
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Nutsosane
Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jerry, I stopped into my tire shop yesterday (Mount/balance $10 per wheel) and asked his opinion. He believes the rubber mushroom plugs to be crap and has seen them work themselves out on numerous occasions. He reccommended the sticky, stringy type and a careful eye. Personally, I have faith in our roadside repair and plan to ride until she well...lets me down. I've got my brother working on a new set of tires for the near future. If you need a set of hoops, I've got a set of Dunlop-Uly stockers with @ 4000 miles on 'em in the basement. Yours for the asking. NUTS
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NUTS - i've plugged and ridden many tires over the years, but always using the sticky, stringy type of plugs, as you call them.

i've now repaired two tires with my Stop-N-Go kit, yours and a fellow's HD in Galax a month or so ago, but i don't have any personal experience as to how well the rubber plugs in the Stop-N-Go kit hold up over the long haul.

it's hard to imagine how they could work themselves out, considering their construction, how they're installed, and the fact there's 35 PSI (in your case) pushing against the head of the plug, but i s'pose it's possible.

i actually carry the sticky, stringy plugs in my roadside ER kit, as well - maybe next time someone needs an emergency repair, i'll give them the choice of plug type.

anyway, hope it holds up for you. i agree, a careful eye - and religiousness with your tire guage - are mandatory at this point. please keep me/us posted of your experience with the Stop-N-Go plug, so i know whether i made a good investment in the kit or not.

thx for the offer of your Uly's take-off meats, but i'm not sure i could get 'em to seat on the RK's wheels... ;)

FB : )
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