| Author | Message | ||
     Old_mil |
Harley-Davidson 6650 Honda 5917 BMW 4878 Yamaha 1491 Kawasaki 1472 Suzuki 655 Triumph 288 Moto Guzzi 119 Ducati 82 Victory 74 Buell 43 Aprilia 37 Indian 18 ...here are the statistics. One of those 43 is me on the Thunderbolt that left the garage last summer for a new home. Let's see what we can do to overtake Victory and Ducati this coming season, eh? With a long legged bike like the Uly in the lineup - and what I'm guessing to be a younger demographic here than on some brands - there's no reason we shouldn't move up that list. I'm going to do a bun burner next year on the Uly. Anyone care to join me? (I'm not particularly surprised by the UJM numbers as those bikes are a bit like locusts and you would expect that they would rank based on numbers alone. Seeing as how almost everyone on a BMW is someone's grandfather or grandmother, the ranking of the roundel does surprise me a bit.  And, I find it particularly galling that 100+ Guzzi riders have finished this 1000 in 24. Seems like the amount of time you'd spend waiting for spare parts for a Guzzi over a thousand mile ride would make it impossible complete such a feat in 24 hours...)  (Message edited by Old_Mil on January 01, 2007) | ||
| Az_m2 |
I plan to do one of these in the next month or so. I'm trying to get a riding buddy of mine to go with me. I'm on a Uly, he's on an old school Honda Goldwing. | ||
| Rhinowerx |
I'm wondering if I've been included in that statistic. Did an SS1000 on my Uly this past September - sent all my paperwork (and a cheque) in but have not yet received the official certificate... -Jack | ||
| Bienhoabob |
Here's a site that holds different IBA rides thru out the year. http://www.mctourer.com/ At the moment they have 4 dates set aside for Regional Saddle Sores. States/locations should be coming out in the next couple weeks. Old mil: If the timing is right, maybe we could ride in one of the Regional events. I'm in Northeastern Illinois. We'll see what the schedule looks like. One of the events I rode in last year: Ride Around Texas (RAT) 3115 miles done in under 70 hours. Almost no Interstate riding.  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Any info on how many Buells have been entered in the actual Iron Butt Rally? I know someone completed the rally a couple of years ago on an S3. BTW, Mike Kneebone bought a new Uly shortly after they came out in 2005. | ||
| Beachbeemer |
I ran the '01 and '03 Iron Butt Rally and there was a finisher on an S-3 in '01. I did the Butt Lite in '00 and '02 and I remember a Buell in one of them. I expect to see a Ulysses or two in this year's IBR. If not someone is missing a good ride. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
BTW, Mike Kneebone bought a new Uly shortly after they came out in 2005. Yup, and last I heard he likes it! | ||
| Burton_briggs |
Rinowerx, Don't feel bad about the SS1000 delay. I rode mine in July '06 and they finally cashed my check in November. I still haven't heard from them. (Message edited by burton_briggs on January 01, 2007) | ||
| Burton_briggs |
Bienhoabob, Could you tell me the size of your reserve tank, and how you have it connected to your bike's fuel system? | ||
| Bienhoabob |
BB, The tank is a 3.5 gal from www.tourtank.com. (although I can only get 3.0 gals in it.) The site has a picture of my bike when I mounted the tank inside of the top case. That really didn't work out. Even though I put vents in the case, I could still smell gas fumes when I opened it. The tank is plumbed into the frame drain plug. About two months after I purchased the 3.5 tank, tour tank came out with a 4.5 gal tank with optional overflow vent. That would be the way to go. Any questions, just ask. The set up is gravity fed and works perfectly. Bob | ||
| Lorazepam |
I am waiting on an iba certification as well. I was just very tardy in getting the paperwork in. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I will be joining the IBA this summer on my cyclone. That reserve tank is awesome! Did you just eliminate the regular gas tank line, run the factory reserve line into the ON on the petcock, and then just run a line from the new reserve tank into the RESERVE on the petcock? | ||
| Burton_briggs |
Bienhoabob, Thanks for the infor re the tank. The tourtank website showed the installation, however I didn't see any shut off valve. Is there one? What prevents you from overfilling the 'frame tank', etc? BB | ||
| Bison |
List Again I hesitate to post on this list since it seems to me that the negative thing always happens. Maybe I am too thin skinned. One more time. I have some experience in LD riding and offer the following for anyone who might be interested.These comments are only my opinions and are not meant in any way to demean anyone or their ideas. I think there are basically two approaches to aux fuel on any motorcycle. One is if you are running the Iron Butt itself. In this case if you wish to be competitive you should run the maximum of 11.5 gals. My efforts show that this will require a custom tank. At present I have a 5 gal. Jazz mounted in the passenger position since this is a purpose built installation. I will probably go ahead and build the 7 gal. custom for the Butt. The other is if you just wish to increase your capacity at less expense. In this case you have a number of options as posted on this list. My 5 gal jazz works well and is very inexpensive. I have found and believe that a simple dump system is the best. I have used this principal on a number of different aux installations. In the Buell case I dump into the tank through the drain hole. My last comment would be that I would always carry the weight(fuel tank) as low and as far forward as practical for your own requirements.I have broken my GS frame twice with the weight in the passenger position. I broke the K1100lt much easier with the tank in the top box position. Just my experience. regards ref | ||
| Bienhoabob |
Below are some more pictures of my set up. I went with a 3.5 gal tank. The theory was 4.4 frame capacity plus 3.5 gal fuel cell would give me 7.9 gal. 7.9 gal at an advertised 50-63 mpg would give me 395 - 497 gas range. But there are two errors in the theory, 1) the tank only holds 3.0 gal and 2) running at a 80-85 mph clip, my gas mileage was in the low to mid 40's. I believe IBA rules state that you must make a stop within 350 miles. So I didn't want to carry the extra weight if I was stopping to get a gas receipt anyway. I think any more than 9 gal on a Uly is an over kill. (No offense Bison, I'm indebted to you for helping me out on the aux. tank plumbing.) On/off aux. tank mounted below my left leg.  Inline aux. filter  Mounting plate on top case bracket  Plumbing is: Elbow fitting replaces Uly drain plug, 5/16 fuel line to quick disconnects (aux. tank comes off in under 10 min. when I am not doing endurance events, but drain elbow stays in place.) fuel line to on/off petcock, fuel line to inline filter, fuel line to tank. I usually turn the aux tank on when the reserve light goes on. The set up is gravity fed. It feeds the frame from the bottom up. If the frame is full, the tank will keep feeding it since the tank is mounted higher than the frame. I screwed up twice on the ButtLite event when my brain was turning to mush. (2 screw ups in 24 fill ups, not to bad) Some riders go with another fuel pump for the aux tank. Then you're messing with pressurized fuel lines, more draw on the battery, etc. Gravity fed is the way to go if you can do it. Keep it simple. Hope this helps. Bob | ||
| Bison |
Bob I think if you dig a little you will find the old 350 rule is now 400. I don't recall for sure the details but I think you will find that the 400 rule does not apply to all rides. Specifically I don't think it applies to the Butt. I could be wrong. regards ref | ||
| Rotorhead |
I'm planing on a LD ride this year (ultimate coast to coast) and considering a Aux tank(for the long stretches between fuel in Canada and the plains states) but if I'm going to buy one I want to make sure it is certified for use by the IBA. No sense in wasting money on it if I decide to get competitive with my riding. If you do get the tank you have certified by the IBA will it be easier for another person to get certified or will one cert for the install on your bike count for the rest of the ULY's that use the same tank? Does anyone out there know if a UCC has been done on a Buell? or a ULY? It would be cool the be the first!! Is anyone up for a ride?? I'm planing it solo right now but it is alot safer with 2 riders. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
Well, if nothing else this thread as motivated me to run the SS1000 on my Uly this spring. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I was on there website last week and it still said no more than 350 miles between stops. I would imagine this does not apply to the actual Rally, but I think it does to all other rides. | ||
| Bienhoabob |
I can't find anything about the 400 mile rule either. Maybe I'm not looking in the right spot. But here's some info on fuel cells. By the way I did go thru a "tech" inspection on my last rally and passed with the tour tank in the photos above. They are after safety. Something that will not rupture if an accident occurs. I've seen fuel cells mounted with worn out bungee cords on non tech inspection rides. Face it, we live in a sue happy country. The rule is a good one. From the Teanstrange website that holds long distant events. II. AUXILIARY FUEL SYSTEMS: 1. An auxiliary fuel system is not required. 2. In the event a fuel log is required, motorcycles carrying less than seven U.S. gallons of fuel may be awarded bonus points for maintaining the log, even if no such log is kept during the rally. Riders will be advised in advance of the rally regarding fuel log requirements, if any. 3. Auxiliary fuel systems must conform as follows: A. Container construction must adhere to one of the following types: (1) Metal containers are allowed, however, the paper-thin metal containers designed for outboard marine applications are not acceptable nor are plastic fuel tanks taken from snowmobiles. (2) NASCAR, IHRA and NHRA fuel cells are acceptable (approval/certification of the sanctioning body must be stamped on the cell) (3) Champion, Fuelsafe, Harwood Industries, JAZ Products, Summit Racing Equipment, Tulsa Enterprises, Major Engineering, James/Haugen and Reno BMW cells are acceptable. (4) Primary (main) fuel tank expansion is allowed, however, such expansion must be made of compatible materials and gauge (thickness) of the main tank. For example, adding a large plastic expansion to your motorcycle's main aluminum tank is not allowed. B. Auxiliary tank must be mounted in a secure manner, no movement allowed, no bungee or shock cord allowed. USE OF GAS CANS/CONTAINERS IS PROHIBITED. Our intention is to allow the use of a safe, permanently mounted fuel cell, or safe main tank expansion. The use of gas cans, bottles or carriers is not allowed. C. Fuel lines routed to preclude interference with the operation of the motorcycle. D. Electric fuel pump, if used, must be properly wired and fused. E. The fuel tank must be properly vented for pressure buildup and overflow. F. Overall capacity is limited to eleven and one-half (11.5) U.S. gallons. Sidecar entries may carry fifteen and one-half (15.5) U.S. gallons. USE OF GAS CANS/CONTAINERS IS PROHIBITED. H. Touratech's R1100 G/S tank is deemed to have a volume of 10.33 gallons, as long as the standard BMW fill pipe has not been removed, shortened, or modified. I. Fuel capacity may be measured at any time as deemed necessary by the Rallymasters. (Message edited by bienhoabob on January 04, 2007) | ||
| Chopped58 |
I too am waiting for a cert., was only sent in early October, so I don't expect a reply anytime soon as they are very backlogged. Want to do another ride as soon as time permits, to help move Buell up the list  | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Anybody live in or around Ohio? (That would be interested in doing one of these rides next season?) | ||
| Rams |
I'm planing my second iba ride for next summer 3000 miles 3 days, leaving from east tn north to indiana, west to colorado, south to texas, back east to tn. can't wait to do it | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Mikef5000, Farrow's is going to sponsor a SS1000 & Bun Burner Gold in June. I will send you a PM so you will have my info. I was the Director of the HOG chapter at Farrow's, I gave that up to start a BRAG Club, and we all know how that turned out. But I still have a email list of local Buell riders and I am still going to do some Buell events. Now I got to get me a extra fuel cell for that Bun Burner Gold..  | ||
| Michael1 |
I'm in NE Ohio and I will be doing some SS1000's this year. I have a few fellow riders that will be doing it as well. I'll post more this spring time when we have something set in stone. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Farrow's is going to try and hook up with a dealership that is about 750 miles from Columbus to use as turn around point and their HOG chapter could use Farrow's as their turn around. Look for the ride in June. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Installing a Tour Tank on motorcycles with fuel pumps in their stock gas tanks. 1. One way to plumb the Tour Tank into the main tank is to install a fitting directly into the stock tank. There is usually room for a 1/4" or 5/16 bulkhead fitting. 2 Another way that works on some bikes like the V-Rod is to use the main tanks factory vent hose to hook up the auxiliary tank's gas line to and then the auxiliary tank's vented cap becomes the vent for both tanks. Some V-Rod owners have used this method with good results. 3. Some fuel pumps are external to the main gas tank and in that case you just need to use the included T-fitting and place it ahead of the pump in the fuel line. I was just on the Tour Tank website and was reading the install tips for bikes with fuel pumps. What do you thing about using the vent tube to get fuel into the tank. | ||
| Loveall13 |
Greg and I are hosting one of the MTF rides out of Bowling Green KY on April 28th. We plan on offering a in state ss1k along with a super slab circle that goes to Memphis TN, Jackson MS, Birmingham AL, Chattanooga TN and then back to Bowling Green. We will be sending the riders out at 6:00 am. The MTF is still working out all the details and will have every thing together shortly. I too am waiting on my ride certification for an in state ss1k and my UCC(my fault dragging about sending it in). Jeremy | ||
| Rotorhead |
Loveall13 Did you do the UCC on the Uly or another bike? Just would like to know I'm going to give a UCC a try this summer and since I live in GA I might as well make it a round trip UCCI while I'm out. I just moved from Fairbanks to GA last spring and doing the Alcan on a Uly would be great!!I still have a few contacts up there and along the way across the US (Military) so I have some support along the way. Does anyone know If anyone has used a Uly to complete a UCC if Loveall13 didn't use his Uly? | ||
| Loveall13 |
I did it on my 1992 r100gspd. Including the 2 days I spent at home on the way through I took 11 days going up. Travel varied from as low as 400 miles up to right over 1,000 miles a day. It was a great trip and I would do it again. Jeremy |
