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Scooter808484
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Two flats in a week... what the heck am I doing wrong?????

Need someone to talk me out of just plugging the thing and riding it. I don't have 200 miles on that stupid tire.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had only 1000 miles on my Ulysses when I got a flat tire and I plugged it. Now the tire has 7400 miles and no problems yet! I say plug and ride!
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Jim_sb
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I picked up 2 large staples in my rear D616 the day I rode the bike home from the dealership.

I plugged it and rode it until the tire was toast.

No worries.

Jim in Santa Barbara
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Adrian_8
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plug and play...no problemo. Or...send the tire to me...ole' buddy.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You guys with the successful plugs, what type do you use?

My kit has the orange-gooey rope type. I plugged my first rear flat and it held air for a couple days, I didn't ride the Uly but decided to swap out the tire anyway since it was almost time.

I'm buying tires now from Cycle Gear since they often have specials, mount/balance for free, and offer road hazard coverage! If I get a puncture in those first 200 miles the tire is replaced, well worth the extra $10 or so.
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Windrider
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you plug it you run the risk of the tire losing air and then you will have to ride it out as the tire goes flat.

If you buy a new tire you will run the risk of flatting and having to ride it out as the tire goes flat.

If you can't keep it up as the tire flats you probably should not be riding the beast.

Life is full of risks. Lawyers will always tell you to buy new tires.

Plug it and ride on.
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Brad1445
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have plugged many a tires and ridden with no difference or trouble. Your mileage may vary.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 3 plugs in my original rear 616 with 4000 miles. I spend alot of time in the emergency lane passing traffic, so I am sure I will see more.

Plug and play dude.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a fancy-shmancy "mushroom" plug kit prior to a cross-country trip on the Uly (never needed it). Then a few months ago I tried to plug a nail hole and the plug wouldn't seal. Had to trailer the Uly home.

YMMV...some people do well w/plug kits.
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The manufacturers generally say to use a patch on the inside of the tire. If you're queasy about using a plug, you could go that route.

I bought one of the mushroom plug kits a couple of years ago ("Stop-n-Go" or something like that). I've only used it once on a motorcycle tire, but it worked well and sealed for another ~6000 miles.
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Scooter808484
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the input.... if it will plug I'm plugging it. I ordered o Stop -n- GO. We'll give it a try.
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Madduck
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When traveling long distances I always throw a few of the rope type plugs in with my Stop n Go kit. You will very rarely encounter a hole that the plugs won't work in and a rope type will. Try a plug first tho.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Again, rope-type or other?

The rope plug I plugged it with seemed that it would do the trick, but my tire was close to the TWI's so I put on a new 616.

You guys with 1000's of miles on successful plugs, what's in there?
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Lowflyer
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use the Slime plugs available at Wally World. I had two plugs in my last tire for about 6500 miles. I would tell you to buy a new tire, but only if I sold tires.
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Az_m2
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had to use this twice. Worked great!


Plug It
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Xbimmer
Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, thanks, this helps.

Do these (mushrooms) require adhesive?
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The manufacturers generally say to use a patch on the inside of the tire. If you're queasy about using a plug, you could go that route"

This is the method I use on any radial tire. Never ever had a problem with it. Of course when you are out on a trip and can't de-rim the tire then plugs are your only hope. I still see mixed results on their use. If it were me and I had to do an emergency plug, I would look for a more permanent fix as soon as possible be it removing the plug and patching or if the hole becomes gaping from the plug replacing the tire. I just have never felt safe on a plug. Then again, car radials are not supposed to be plugged either, but tire places still do it all the time and they work. That kit posted above looks to be a nice, complete emergency kit.

(Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2006)
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Dr_greg
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "Stop-N-Go" mushroom plug kit is the one I tried to use...couldn't get it to seal.
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Az_m2
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do these (mushrooms) require adhesive?

No, everything comes in the kit. No adhesive, actually the mushroom plugs are covered in a grease like substance to aid the insertion.
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Jlnance
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "Stop-N-Go" mushroom plug kit is the one I tried to use...couldn't get it to seal.

I've done a couple of this type of plug. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. After looking at the inside of the tire of one that didn't work, I believe the issue is the relation of the tire cords to the puncture. It appeared that there was a cord which would cut into the stem, eventually cutting the head off the plug.
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