| Author | Message | ||
     Marklawrence |
 California Scientific Web Page (Message edited by marklawrence on August 25, 2006) | ||
| Aeholton |
Interesting design. I like the vent hole to minimize buffeting. | ||
| Fdl3 |
I saw where you caught a lot of flak regarding this windshield over on ADVRider, which really surprised me given the nature of that site. People can think it ugly, but to me, the potential benefits far outweigh the physical beauty (or lack thereof). There is more than one way to be "beautiful"!  | ||
| Bienhoabob |
I like their 'Competitive Upgrade'. Hopefully I can find that piece of junk CeeBaileys shield in the garbage and get $60 bucks off. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
So you have to eat shipping charges to send back a competitor's windshield. So that 60 dollars is more like 45 bucks. To me, it's not wide enough and has no bracing hardware and is too far from the rider and wind has a bad habit of curling right back to fill in the low pressure area behind the shield in front of the rider instead of behind the rider. The closer (within reason of course) you can mount the shield to yourself the less the winds going to buffet. $185 dollars plus shipping is way too much for a chunk of acrylic with no hardware, no aerodynamic bends, and no style. Even 185-45+shipping= about 140 bucks is too much for a $60 shield. Thanks for trying though. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Just my four cents. For those that would want to buy this shield and already have a CeeBailey or other, this would be my recommendation. Email a picture of you and your current windshield to this guy. You shouldn't have to spend money to save money on his shield. At least then you will have two marginal shields to be pissed about. I'm just darn mean today. | ||
| Lorazepam |
I still find it funny that folks buy a "naked" bike and then decide they need to ride in still air. If I felt the need for a giant windshield, I would buy a bike with a giant windshield, and not try to turn an excellent bike into a cruiser. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Giant windshields don't help. I have a Goldwing in the garage along with my Ulysses. The wing has a barn door, huge fairing, etc. The wind noise, buffetting, and cooling air are MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better on my Ulysses. The wing beats me to a bloody pulp. | ||
| Fdl3 |
Electraglider_1997: I am confused over how you REALLY feel regarding windshields?!  Chadhargis: Yesterday, on my way home from work, I had opportunity to follow a guy on a GoldWing through some of the twisty roads on my route. It was obvious the guy knew the roads VERY well. I had to stop trying so hard to keep up!  | ||
| Supertoon |
Just did a 1000 km ride with my newly installed Laminar lip. Very pleased, just have to lower it about an inch. As the weather gets cooler, I think a decent size tankbag will help as well. Much smoother and more quiet than the tall screen! | ||
| Dgunther |
"Giant windshields don't help." Same deal with my RT - huge faring with electric windscreen adjustment, and not nearly as quiet as my head in the nice clean air like I get from my Ulysses with the stock screen. That stock screen is dang near perfect for me - takes most of the wind blast off the chest, but leaves just enough to keep me cool. From the middle of my shoulders up is clean air flow. | ||
| Stevem123 |
I like the nice clean air flow too! Who needs a barn door to slow them down?? The only problem with clean air flow is the major bug carnage left on my helmet to clean off! LOL! Also helps a little when you need that extra bit of protein just go helmetless and open your mouth. YUM! BC Steve | ||
| Xbimmer |
Supertoon, just got a Lip myself, I was thinking of trying it out on my Uly tall shield since I feel a little annoyed that the shield I waited four months for is noisy as all getout... Just how good is the Lip on the stock screen? Reason I got the tall was for more headwind protection... backfired. It does make riding 80+ more effortless but at the cost of more noise and headblows. I'm surprised to hear that the "benchmark" tourer GL beats the rider up within the cabin. I've never ridden a dresser GL, but unless my memory's wrong I remember putting a lot of miles on BMW R100RS and K100RS at 100+ in clean, quiet, and stable air behind those fairings. Anybody know why if I open my faceshield just a crack the wind noise riding behind my tall shield drops significantly? Just discovered that today, I'm puzzled. Considering the shield posted, I don't think it's any uglier than lots of others out there. It seems to have some sort of hardware at the bottom, maybe to support against liftout at the bottom? I'd be wary also of where the cutout is, seems to be right about where the inevitable flexing is gonna occur with that sail. Looking through plastic isn't for me but if it works and holds up then there will be buyers. Lorazepam, I bought my Uly not because it's a "naked" bike (it's not anyway IMHO, it has a stock shield) but it's the only Buell made with both bad-road capability and long distance legs. And can haul through twisties faster than I am capable or willing to push it. If Buell had offered the Uly with a minimal framemount fairing option, like BMW used to do with /7-S-RS variations of the same bike, I would have gone for the faired option. To each his own.  (Message edited by xbimmer on August 25, 2006) | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
How is letting the wind pound you instead of a windshield make your bike faster?? If you think about it a windshield moves the air a lot more aerodynamically than your body. The ULY is a situp straight type of bike and not a crotch rocket. So the Wing windshield sucks so I must conclude that all windshields must suck. Some of you guys make statements without even having ridden behind a windshield that works. Wait, Buell makes no mistakes or anything that needs improvement and that includes that recalled for safety tall windscreen of theirs. Of course not. I give up...not. | ||
| Roadrailer |
Holy crap that thing is huge! If that's what folks want more power to them, but I don't understand why you buy a naked bike and then go through all these gyrations to totally block the wind. For me the Cee Bailey's +2.5 works. It's a good compromise between the stock screen and feeling like I'm riding in a Civic. | ||
| Roadrailer |
Some of you guys make statements without even having ridden behind a windshield that works. It's ironic that you say this, having never used the shield you're poopooing above. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
It looks about the same as the CeeBailey 14+ that I cut down to 4+. Can't see how it would work any different, but ya never know until ya try it. I'll concede that much. | ||
| Supertoon |
Xbimmer, I have the tall screen as well, don't really like it , too noisy and alot of dirty air right in the helmet. I think if I lower the lip a tad it will be perfect. Head in clean air and good torso protection. I have a shoei rf100 and if I put my hand under the chin portion the ride gets REALLY quiet. I going to try a rig up a "sheild" on velcro to block the bottom front of my helmet. More comfortable as the weather cools of as well. I have still to get a straight answer on the tall windsheild recall, I think it applies to the lip set-up as well. I am toying with the idea of replacing the bottom pins with a "L-shaped" pin in order to maintain the possibility of easily removing the screen. | ||
| Xbimmer |
Supertoon, how far above the top edge of your Buell shield do you think the top edge of the Lip should be? I taped mine on the other day with about 1/3 of the Lip above the Buell Tall, went for a short ride in a headwind area where I live to simulate a 70-75 mph speed. Lip didn't seem to change anything much but I was getting nervous about the tape so I came back. My Tall shield took months to arrive I guess because of the problems with the original. The new shield uses a screw/spacer/nut system to keep the lower portion from levering out of the grommets and pulling out of the tops also. I ordered another set of these (part #57739-07Y) since I figured if I put the Lip on my stock Low shield I might inadvertently recreate the problem of the original Tall shield. L-shaped lower pins? So you could pop out the tops then lever the shield forward to remove the lowers? Sounds interesting! | ||
| Supertoon |
You got it! Seems the problem is levered tension on the bottom pins, the L-Shape should give enough purchase. I will take a pic of my screen and get some measurements for you. The other option would be to cut down the tall screen (as it is wider) and install the lip. I am still hoping the lowered lip on the stock screen will do the trick. BTW, can you dismantle those mounting pins??? | ||
| Sanchez |
> Xbimmer, I have the tall screen as well, don't really like it , too noisy and alot of dirty air right in the helmet. Me three. I got my tall shield this weekend, and I don't like it at all. It seems to have raised the air stream to just below my chin. I get less wind on my chest and shoulders, but lots more turbulence on my helmet. I got a lot of wind with the old screen, but it was a steady pressure. This may sound odd, but my M2 without even a flyscreen is just as (if not more) comfortable at 80 mph than the Uly with either shield. I don't know if that's due to the lack of a shield concentrating the air on my upper body or if it's the M2's more aggressive riding position. Maybe I'll try riding without any shield at all and see how that goes. (Message edited by sanchez on August 28, 2006) | ||
| Supertoon |
When we went to Deals Gap and were riding some of the those great local roads, I took the tall screen off completely, really liked the clean air(up to 60 mph). However, on superslab no fun at all. Alot has to do with your gear, I have a Joe Rocket comet jacket, it has large arms. They really act like sails. With just a t-shirt it was fine. I think I might get another Roadcrafter. Plus with too much rear preload the friggin bike was dancing all over the place, my buddy could see the swimming from two car lengths back! (But that is another story!) Anyway at 6'-0" with a 32" inseam the tall screen is not a keeper. | ||
| Xbimmer |
Supertoon, if you're referring to dismantling the new tall shield's lower pins, they are a multi-part assembly. Yes. I don't see how the upper pins on the tall or any of the pins on the stocker can be removed w/o destroying them, which I intend to do once my parts come off backorder. I'll be removing the stock lowers on my stock shield and replacing them with the tall shield parts. | ||
| Snowscum |
Id like to rid the wind on my shoulders. Do you guys think that cee bailey 4.5" windscreen would help that since its wider? Im 6'4" 36" inseam. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Snowscum, Save your money and wait for the Parabellum ULY shield. I corresponded with them last week about where they were in getting a ULY windshield to the market and they wrote back: yes craig, a couple weeks ago we developed a prototype that looked pretty good but a quick test revealed refinement necessary, then our year's supply of scout fairing bodies came in and we've been scrambling to fill old back orders, but we are almost thru and will be getting the uly back in to finish it up within a week or so. Parabellum attaches their windshields to the handlebar because this brings the shield closer to the rider thereby reducing or eliminating the buffeting. I modified a 16+ CB to do the same thing and it works real nice. Seems that most of the guys on this board would rather not have a so called barn door windshield on their bikes but complain about buffeting or fatigue or other. They conveniently forget that their frontal body is then the barn door that takes the brunt of the wind. Let the windshield do that. http://www.parabellum.com/ I do not work for Parabellum and am not in anyway affiliated with Parablellum. I love the look of their shields and will probably buy their ULY shield when it becomes available (if it is wider than my modified CB16+). | ||
| Lorazepam |
Snowscum, I have the +2.5, and it takes a lot of the wind off the shoulders, and a friend has the +4.5, and is very happy with it. He says it takes most of the wind off his shoulders, and feels very comfortable. If you are looking for a barn door, the parabellum may be your cup of tea. I have used cee bailey products for years, and have had no problems with them at all. | ||
| Snowscum |
Thanks for the info. I need to get something ordered before its gets any cooler out. | ||
| Roadrailer |
Snow, I love my Cee Bailey +2.5 (the +4.5 is the same design only taller, IIRC). Takes the wind off my shoulders and chest, while keeping my head in clean air. No "buffeting or fatigue or other" issues here. For reference purposes, I'm 5'9". | ||
| Chadhargis |
No buffetting from my CB +2.5. Leaves my head in good clean air, I get plenty of cooling wind, and it looks nice too. | ||
| Theloftus |
THE STOCK SHIELD WORKS GREAT FOR ME... ITS A NAKED SPORT TOURING BIKE. I AM GONNA KEEP IT THAT WAY. THE ONLY LARGER WINDSHIELD I WILL BUY WILL HAVE A GS1200 STUCK TO IT. |
