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Superglide
Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was heading home from a nice mountain ride today coming down from 8300 ft (Big Bear, CA)and reached the interstate (10) to take me home and leading the pack when the bike just shuts down on me...There was no way to cross over 4 lanes and ended up in the center medium (not fun to merge from). Turned off the ignition then back on and the bike started right up and ran fine for about 5 miles and shut down again. This time I just reached over and turned off the ignition while in the slow lane and coasting about 40 mph and restarted right away and the bike ran fine the next 60 miles home. Vapor lock or ignition? Only 90 degree's out, 7700 miles on the odometer, stock...
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Davo
Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happened to me three times. I pulled a trouble code- 21 (interactive muffler control) Try exhaust control self test-
WITHOUT STARTING THE ENGINE!!
1. full throttle
2. turn on key and then the ignition switch to run
3. servo should cycle smoothly

If not then let me know. There is a home fix.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like you may have the same problem I did, a failing fuel pump. Mine wasn't throwing any codes they fuel pump was just not generating sufficient pressure. I was in gear (usually 3rd or 4th) cooking down the road and the bike would just stall out. If I cycled the kill switch, it would fire right back up. I was even able to cycle the switch while rolling and the bike came alive while I was rolling.

It only happened once on each of the three successive rides. It started right back up each time.
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Ftd
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also experienced this for the first time yesterday. ~3500 miles on bike, 95 F, 90 mph bike just quit. Kill switch off/on while coasting and it started right up. Only time that has ever happened.

Frank
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Alatriste
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi,

Have your bike fell on the right side?, mine did it and when the dealer checked they found that the ignition wires were almost cut.

Saludos
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Superglide
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the insight on what to look for, I'll check the exhaust servo op's.

Worse case, I guess I'll have the dealer check it out when I go in for the kickstand re-call.

The bike has fallen over on the left side 2 x's while parked on my slightly down sloped drive way....essentially rolled off the kickstand (operator error?)
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M2nc
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SG - I understand, drop my Uly on Day on in the yard. Operator error also.
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Superglide
Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Davo,
servo seems to function correctly...But found an interesting amount of oil blow by in the air box.. I have a harley twincam with 26k and never experienced this much blowby? Any insight from the buell gang?
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Dust_buster
Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might be a long shot but I will offer this up.
My girlfriend had a Buell Blast which did the same thing, it would run out about 2/3 of the fuel and then stop, drove me crazy, turned out the vapor recovery canister was plugged due to overfilling the bike and having fuel run down the fuel tank breather hose.
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Terrible1one3
Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine did that too (on the uly) cause i hit the damn kill switch on accident : D. Fixed that problem while still rolling, funny story

leaving baker transmissions production plant in MI (running parts for a harley shop) that place uses slave labor (all 18 year old kids putting their shit together) well they are all on jap bikes

one asked me (I was on my 04 xb12s) if the bike pulled to the right when i braked, hehe, then as i left they encouraged me into doing a wheelie, so i did one through first, second, dropped in third and kept hammering, going into 5th full throttle on a 55 mph road i hit the kill switch on accident, thought i blew something up, coasted to 30 found the problem started up and took off, no more than 5 seconds later a cop drives by,

if i didn't hit that kill switch i woulda been impounded for sure : )
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Davo
Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Superglide,

I oil blow by in the air is probably not the problem but it can be reduced by only running the prescribed amount of oil. Mine is at the second X from the bottom of the stick when hot. At your next oil change put in exactly 2.5 quarts and then ride the bike and check the level and that is where it should be. If you add oil above the prescribed level it will use the added oil. That oil will go to the air box. Another solution is to use a synthetic oil like AMS oil MCV. It is much more stable at high temperatures and does not cook off and get sucked out the breathers as much as conventional oil.
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