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Keyser_soze
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well not exactly Strippers but those inclined to strip their oil plug.

As a Beemer refugee I am still a die hard torque wrench fan. I am aware of at least one other member stripping their oil drain plug. I was making sure to torque the drain plug just below the lowest recommended spec from the service manual. Well right as it snugged up it pulled an exorcist and just kept on spinning.
I was able to find a temporary self expanding rubber plug to use until I get a timesert. Luckily forum member Chad Hargis was ready and willing to come to my aid and send me the timesert kit he used to fix his plug. Based on how easy the threads stripped I urge extreme caution and a much lower toque spec than the manual recommends. Buell really needs to place a timesert in from the factory to prevent this from ever being an issue.

Thanks in advance to Chad for saving the trip that I planned for next weekend. Hopefully my wrenching skills are up to the task.
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Paul56
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I drilled the head of the drain plug on mine and use a piece of .032" stainless safety wire to safety the plug to the exhaust outlet heat shield. Run the plug in by fingers until the o-ring hits its seat. Use a standard length box wrench to run the bolt in until it seats metal to metal. Go just a little (JUST A LITTLE!) past that to snug it up. Install the safety wire so that it tends to tighten the plug (pulls in a clockwise direction) to the heat shield. Always use a new o-ring ($0.25 ea. at the dealer). You'll never have a problem with stripped threads or a loosening drain plug.
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Captain_nartman
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dayum... Thought I was Gonna Get a Lap-Dance when I Opened this thread.




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Roadrailer
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Run the plug in by fingers until the o-ring hits its seat. Use a standard length box wrench to run the bolt in until it seats metal to metal. Go just a little (JUST A LITTLE!) past that to snug it up.

This is pretty much how I've always tightened oil pan plugs on every vehicle I've ever worked on, although I use a small wrench (to reduce leverage). Never used a torque wrench, and never had a bolt back out or leak.

I wonder if there's any way the combination of thread sealant AND the rubber o-ring(overkill, if you ask me)could affect the torque reading?
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Chris_in_tn
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have never used a torque wrench on any drain plug and have never had a problem with a plug backing out, or stripping the threads. Just tighten it down with a small wrench by feel. With a short wrench you should be able to tell by feel when to stop.
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Davo
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The book specifies 29-34 ft-lbs. which it way too tight. I use 12-14 ft-lbs! I think the same person that wrote the torque specs wired and timed my bike. Pings when it is hot and clear and misses and cuts off wen it rains. You can use my Uly as a weather station.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Time Sert box in hand and will ship it to you overnight today. You should have it tomorrow in time for your trip.
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44mag
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I torqued mine to 20 ft-lbs. I want to find an insert with a separate center that unscrews so that I do not need to be paranoid about the threads. Any idea where I can get one? I went to the local NAPA store, but they do not have the right size.
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Keyser_soze
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Chad. Hopefully I can get it fitted with no complications.
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44mag
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are the specs of the timesert you used? I am sure that I will need that info someday. : (
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Keyser_soze
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll have to have Chad answer that. Chad was a lifesaver overnighting the kit to me. The install was straight forward and fairly easy. I don't expect to have any further issues with the drain plug now. I will be using a much lower torque spec to be on the safe side. More in line with the tranny plug specs.

Stefhan
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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.timesert.com/html/drainplug.html

It's the first kit on the list...1/2 x 20.
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