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44mag
Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just received my VDSTS software from American Sportbike. Pretty cool ... However, I have a few questions ...
1. How do I view error codes? I took out the fuse for my exaust actuator. I should be able to retrieve a error code 21, but it is not working when I check DTC errors under the VIEW menu. What am I doing wrong??
2. Nothing shows up when I check system status - whats up with that?
3. Under the active tests I see that I can set the Air Fuel valve - what is that? Is it the mixture???

Thanks for the help!
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Davo
Posted on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

44mag,
Glad to hear you got a VDSTS! You have to select the ECM first then connect. Once you are in click on the orange box(DTC)That will list historic and active trouble codes. Hopefully there are not any codes listed. I am not sure if pulling the fuse will throw a code on the exhaust actuator. If you unplug the connector it should throw a trouble code. The Air Fuel Valve is a parameter that you ECM has learned while you are ridding the bike. If you clear it then the system will have to "learn" the conditions of your riding style and the other engine parameters. You will have to go out and ride the bike so that it can learn again. The system status should simply indicates whether those conditions are occurring or not. I have not had reason to use it. I spend most of my time with the gauges/meters and DTC feature. Maybe someone will chime in and give you a better description of the system status.
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44mag
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Davo,

When I pull the fuse, the check engine light comes on so I assumed that it would cause an error code ... maybe not ... I suppose I can try unplugging the actuator. The software is nice. I just want to make sure I know how to use it.
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44mag
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Davo,

Would you mind popping out the fuse for your exaust actuator and seeing if the software shows an DTC error code? That way I can tell if my software is working.
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Davo
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I disconnected the O2 sensor wire once it showed a code for a open or shorted O2 sensor. If you unplug the fuse then run the manual self test procedure:
1.full throttle (do not run the engine!!!)
2. Turn on the key and turn on the ignition switch. Then the actuator will cycle. If it does not cycle (because the fuse it out)it will most likely throw a code then indicating that something is wrong.....and maybe not.
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44mag
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will unplug it and check ... easy enough
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44mag
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I unplugged it and it still won't give me an error code ... but the check engine light comes on ... looks like I need to call technoresearch.
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Davo
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

According to the Uly Manual these are the parameters for a code 21:
1. Mechanical fault in the actuator, valve or cable
2. Electrical fault in the actuator circuit.
3. Electrical fault in the actuator feedback circuit.
4. Electrical fault in the brake light or horn circuits.
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Lorazepam
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the current version will not display a code 21. It is being worked on by the software company, and an upgrade will be available soon.
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Davo
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lorazepam,
That would explain it. Thanks! When I was chasing my actuator problem it was before I received my VDSTS. I used the jumper wire method to retrieve my 21 code.
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Davo
Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

44mag,
There is nothing wrong with the VDSTS. I pulled the fan fuse and ran the bike shortly and the engine light did come on. Then I tried to pull a code with the VDSTS and you guessed it, no code. Then I tried to pull a code with the "jumper method" and I pulled a 36 which is the fan trouble code. I then hooked up the VDSTS and cleared the code. Then I did the "jumper method" and NO MORE CODE! THat means the VDSTS is not pulling all available codes but is capable of clearing them. It is advisable to run "jumper method" to check for codes when trouble shooting until all the codes have been made available for the software. I can remember several people that were having problems with their bike and they were not pulling codes. This could lead you down the wrong road if the obvious problem is believed ok due to "no VDSTS codes".

(Message edited by davo on May 21, 2006)
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Davo
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have received news that there will be an update next week for the VDSTS. It appears that there was a glitch in the software that omitted some trouble code diagnosis. Thanks to 44mag we were able to discover that even if there was a historic code on the ECM, the VDSTS might not pick it up depending on what code it is. That would explain why several people were having trouble w/o trouble codes.
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Stevem123
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to get the VDSTS that will run on a handheld computer or palm. My plan is to be able to look at various things while underway. Of course I would want the latest version but I also need to know which handheld or palm is recommended.

I saw a Dell handheld that has bluetooth and also has an optional acessory for GPS navigation! That would be too cool!

Lastly, who wants to sell me the setup I'm looking for?

BC Steve
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Davo
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al at American Sportbike can set you up. There was a VDSTS "palm" thread on BadWeb recently.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve,
I run mine on a bluetooth Ipaq from HP running the latest microsoft OS, not the Palm OS. But it will run on either. Works well, I'm doing most of my shop TPS resets using the PDA instead of the laptop because I can walk it over to the bike easiest. I also got a bluetooth GPS rx so it will go with me on all trips.

Whichever PDA you get, you'll need a serial synch cable for it. I got my cable from a place on ebay for about 6 bucks.

We have plenty of them in stock.

Thanks,
Al
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Odie
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Al. Do you have a sync cable that would work with a Dell X50v? I assume the software will work on this PDA also?!? Thanks, Odie.

(it is Bluetooth capable also)

(Message edited by odie on May 25, 2006)
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Jackbequick
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odie,

I've built and bought a lot of serial cables for various Palm and HP/iPAQ PDA's.

Like Al says, eBay is the usually the fastest and cheapest way to get one.

Gomadic is a another good source for serial cables for many different PDAs. The link is to the Dell page and has the cable you asked about.

The Gomadic developer's parts page has connectors pigtail cables for many different PDAs for those that want to build their own cables or make special purpose cables.

And the Gomadic Support page has the pinout info for many PDA connectors to help you figure it all out when you're building a cable.

I'm using an older iPAQ 3870 for the tank bag GPS on my M2 and made up the cable myself to get the cable lengths right and avoid a snarl of extra wiring.

Jack
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Lorazepam
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got the software from Daves. I am running it on a windows 98 computer.
I can get as far as selecting the port. I then select the gauges, and tell it to connect, and the program locks up.

Any suggestions? I will see the VDO EFI when I select the ECU/ECM selector.
After that it locks up.
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Davo
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need to select the correct port. I will check the command and post. I use comm port 1.
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Davo
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Select the "Communication" menu and select "port setting" then select the correct port, (in my case port 1) for the ECU/ECM. If You are using the keyspan USB serial adapter, make sure the port mapping for the adapter is the same comm. port as the VDSTS.
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Odie
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jack!!
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Lorazepam
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have selected the correct port. It recognizes the ECM when I hit the ECU/ECM selector. It will not connect, and locks up when I go to communications and select connect. I discovered the port was not activated early on, it just wont connect after I select the gauges.
I have the key on, and I have to shut down the computer by turning it off because it locks up.
This is the only program on the computer besides the operating system, so nothing else is running at the time.
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44mag
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have the key on. Do you also have the kill switch on? You should be able to hear the fuel pump.
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Lorazepam
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will start if I hit the button
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44mag
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not the yellow starter button, the red kill switch. Can you hear the fuel pump? If you don't hear the fuel pump when you turn on the ignition, the VDSTS module is not getting power.
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Lorazepam
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes the key is on, the gauges sweep, and the fuel pump runs. the kill switch is in the position that allows the bike to start.
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44mag
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Call the customer support number. I had some initial troubles and they were very helpful. AND they were there on a saturday!
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Chief
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doesn't the ECM go into some sort of sleep mode if you don't access it within 15 seconds of turning the ignition on? Maybe that could have something to do with it.
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Davo
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lorazepam,
Are you using a Keyspan adapter?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lorazepam,

You're running that on a hardware serial port on a laptop, right? I think Davo is asking if you are using a Keyspan serial to USB adapter.

I don't know how that is connected to the breakout box (or whatever it is called) on the bike. Depending on how they are marking or identifying the leads from the breakout, you may have the the TXD and RXD leads reversed and also may have a ground issue.

Let me know if you want more info on the pin numbers and connections.

Jack
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