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Davo
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 10:40 pm: | 
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The data link connector has 4 pins. The VDSTS connector should only hook up with the latch to orient it correctly. I was just trying to emphasis the need to coordinate port settings with the VDSTS software and the Serial adapter software. I had a similar problem with mine. If you got a lot of junk on your computer, and I do, a subsequent serial adapter software made a secondary port setting and then the VDSTS could not find its way home. |
44mag
| | Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 12:47 am: |
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If you are using the keyspan adapter, make sure that it is configured as a serial port. Mine was com4. The keyspan software has a program to check (look under start-->programs) It should read idle and tell you the com port. Hopefully it is not a windows 98 compatibility glitch. |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 07:53 am: |
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I hope it isnt a glitch with the software and W98. having to get another computer besides the software would buy a lot of TPS resets.
I will give it another shot today, and see what I can come up with.
I dont have the keyspan adapter, it is direct to the computer, and the connector to the bike can only be plugged in one way.
It is an old laptop, and if I can borrow another one to give it a try, I will try to rule out the computer. |
Stevenknapp
| | Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 09:18 am: |
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I've got an old P90/W98 "garage" laptop. There were some issues for me as well. It took quite a bit longer to connect than I expected, but once it did it worked fine.
I tried it with my "modern" laptop and a generic USB/serial adapter, same result. I've not yet dragged my work laptop home (which has a real serial port) to try.
Let me/us know what works out for you! |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 11:13 pm: |
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OK I dont know what to think now. I tried it on a new computer with XP as the OS.
It recognizes the cable and successfully interfaces with the ecu/ecm when I hit the ecu/ecm selector.
When I try to connect, it tells me to check the cables, and the port settings, and to turn the key off and on.
I am at a loss, but at least it didnt lock up the program on that computer.
Guess I will wait till tuesday and see what the folks at the manufacturer say. |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 09:53 am: |
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I'm not sure it has ever communicated with the ECM, but it sounds like it HAS communicated with the dongle microprocessor. This rules out the half of the cable that goes from the computer to the dongle, and the port settings are likely correct.
The Dongle is coded to a particular bike. When the computer talks to the dongle, it is saying "I see you, you are a Buell Dongle". Sounds like that part is working for you.
But it sounds to me that isn't getting to the ECM itself. I don't have my cables here at home, they're at the shop. If someone else can ohm-out their cable and tell Gale what the connectivity in the cable that goes from the dongle to the 4 position bike connector, he'll be able to check that half of the cable. if that passes, then I'd suspect a bad bike harness.
Al |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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Thanks Al,
I am a field service tech, and I was thinking that it was a hardware problem because of how it acts. I will check the cables between the dongle for continuity, and when someone can tell me what the dongle between them should be, I will have those readings as well.
Glad I checked it before I made any changes in the bike. |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 05:13 pm: |
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Well, I have continuity from the ecm to the dongle. (4 pins on the serial connector)
If I leave the key off, it doesnt see the ecu. If I turn on the key, It recognizes it. It is when I try to connect and get readings from the gauges that it doesnt seem to see the ecu. |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 05:14 pm: |
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Oh yeah, the only thing I see on the downstream side of the dongle is system ground. |
Smcnamara
| | Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 11:01 am: |
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You may have already checked this, so sorry if that's the case, but the problem on your Win98 machine sounds like it might be an interrupt (IRQ) problem.
If you have multiple devices on the machine that try to use the same IRQ, you can get system lockups. Take a look at your BIOS settings and look at the IRQs assigned to each device. Make sure the IRQ for the serial port isn't also assigned to something else. You can also look at this information in the "System" control panel in the hardware manager tab.
For the XP machine, check the Baud rate for the serial port. It's quite possible the VDSTS is looking for 9600bps (I'd expect it to say something about this in the manual) but the default for the port might be 57600bps. If you change the serial port setting to the appropriate speed, it might improve things.
Just a couple more shots in the dark... |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 09:16 pm: |
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before I start digging into computers, I want to check out the output of the ecm. Just need to know what kind of signal or voltage to the computer from the ecm in and out.
I will be at homecoming, and will bring the whole shebang with me. Anyone want to look at it? |
Davo
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 12:12 pm: |
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version 279.F is available!! online for down load. |
Ntmmd8r
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:06 pm: |
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Lorazepam...I'm waiting on the edge of my seat to hear what you've come up with. I'm having the exact same problem..except for the fact that I'm using the Keyspan adapter, but with the same exact outcome. Have you come up with anything yet????? |
Stevenknapp
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 12:29 am: |
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To get mine to work is a three step process.
Test the cable, the SW identifes the cable.
Some option to test/detect the ECU. The status bar at the bottom says VDO or some such.
THEN connect to see the data.
Otherwise it won't work. Not sure why. Can get specifics if needed. |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 05:09 pm: |
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Mine wont do the third step.
It uses the power from the bike to power the dongle. That is why you need the key on to see the status change to VDO.
Mine does that, but it isnt seeing the information returning from the motorcycle.
that is where my problem lies, and I guess I will have to call the software company and see what they say.
I have been very busy, and had hoped someone had debugged the same problem as I have.
I will post what I find out.
Steve what is the baud rate of the port you are using? It may help to change that if mine is wrong. |
Ntmmd8r
| | Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 04:36 pm: |
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For whatever it's worth..I talked to TechnoResearch Inc. today and found out the reason my software won't talk with my ECU is because they packaged a bunch of their kits wrong. They have a Harley cable, which hooks up just like the Buell, but isn't set up to work with one. They knew about the problem, and are sending a new kit ASAP. "Lorazepam"....yours sounds like it's the same as mine...call them. |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 10:57 pm: |
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Hey thanks! I have been at homecoming and the race, and havent checked my email for a while. I figured I would check it out when I got home. Homecoming was great, wonderful weather, and the race was a good time. |
Stevem123
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 03:08 am: |
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I got my kit from Al at American Sport Bike on Friday. I'm using an HP Ipaq 2795.
I just tried it out for re-setting the TPS and it works great. So far no more dead spot just off idle. This is way cool. All I need to get now is a bluetooth adapter and I can avoid the cabling for monitoring while on the fly!
Thanks Al!
BC Steve |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 08:01 am: |
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Sending My kit back to technoresearch for a replacement. They are very nice people, and hopefully I will get a working dongle soon. Mine is definately a hardware problem. |
Davo
| | Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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Version 2.79H is available for download. Maybe this is the one we have been waiting for? |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 10:03 am: |
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Nope.
Timing won't be in it. I'm doing some testing on some beta code this weekend to get the AFV, O2 voltage, and OPEN Loop/closed loop operation flag turned on. But timing isn't part of that yet.
AL |
44mag
| | Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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Al,
What does the open loop/closed loop operation flag do? Will the O2 voltage tell me if my O2 sensor is working properly? What is the AFV? |
Chadhargis
| | Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 01:39 pm: |
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AFV is air/fuel value. Open/Closed loop flag will tell you if the ECU is using a static map, or dynamically adjusting fuel mixture using input from the O2 sensor. |
44mag
| | Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 02:32 pm: |
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Does this mean that we can control the mixture with the AFV setting (when it is released in non-beta form)? Is the AFV mixture value what is used when the fuel mixture is not switched to be dynamically adjusted? |
Davo
| | Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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The AFV setting will just clear it back to a default and then the bike will have to "learn" again. The setting will not allow you to modify the AFV parameters. This is predetermined by the ECM and the O2 sensor. There is an optimum ratio that is fixed into the system. It is my understanding that you can run from it but you can't hide from it. |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 02:59 am: |
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Actually, the technoresearch guys keep using the wrong label. AFV is ADAPTIVE Fuel Value, not AIR Fuel Value. I've told them several times, they keep forgetting to fix it.
It isn't settable, though it is REsettable to the nominal 100% value. It is a scalar applied to the open loop map, used to compensate for air density or other things that affect the fueling.
Al |
Davo
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 07:11 am: |
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AL,
Is "fuel pump voltage" on the short list at TR? |
44mag
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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If you shut off the adaptive mixture control with the open/closed loop flag, what mixture settings are used? |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 05:54 pm: |
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Well it has been a week since I sent my VDSTS back to the manufacturer. I have yet to get an email, or have anyone answer the phone when I call. Should I be worried? |
Davo
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:11 pm: |
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I would email them. They are very good at responding. |
Ntmmd8r
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
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When I had mine replaced by VDSTS, They actually overnighted my replacement for a Saturday delivery. I know that cost some serious coin. They just asked that I mailed my bad one back...which I did. I was floored by their quick response. |
Lady_asb
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 03:29 am: |
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Giamberto was in Italy all last week and the week before, he just got back this week. I'm sure he is buried. I'm sure he'll get to it soon.
Joanne
(Message edited by lady_asb on June 14, 2006) |
Lorazepam
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 06:40 pm: |
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I got it today. I am guessing the lack of response was because he was gone. |
