| Author | Message | ||
     Ionhd |
A UK magazine carried a Buell advert/editorial that stated the 2007 Ulysses will have increased steering lock, I am under the impression that the tyres will either be changed to scorpion sync’s or they will be offered as an option. | ||
| Thunderbox |
Scorpion Syncs will not be offered as an option. They will either come with the bike or won't but there won't be an option. Buell has never done that in the past and I don't see them changing any time soon as far as that goes. Don't hold your breath. That kind of option would be a real PITA. Not very workable and would be expensive. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
The only ways to get increased steering on the ULY are either to modify the design of the triple clamps or modify the gas tank/frame. Can anyone think of different ways to accomplish increased steering lock? | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Ionhd, Can you scan the article for us? | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
If they do indeed move the forks foward then the length of the bike will increase. Would probably help keep the front wheel better planted which seems like a plus to me. | ||
| Ionhd |
Sorry dont have the article, as far as the tyres go, It was from a different source dont know what exactly will happen maybee nothing, i was left with the impressions the sync's are a real possibility. | ||
| Court |
Reminds me of a hilarious story of a Buell I was issued to test in 1997. There was some 'sperimenting going on that involved fiddling with some geometry. Essentially, on this particular bike, the forks had been relocated reward about 1/2". I was sent out to assess some "at speed" weave characteristics. The "fun" was because the tube frame had not been modified, this giving the bike about 12o lock to lock steering. Interesting to say the least. Oddly enough one of the most memorable was when, by accident, I got the bike "kinda airborne" on Town Line Road. I gained a new respect for steering lock. | ||
| Az_m2 |
For the type of bike that the Uly is, I just don't see where increased steering lock will help anything. The bike is fine for the intended purpose. Maybe if they plan to come out with a more dirt oriented version . . . | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
I must disagree. I'm used to bikes that you can whip in a very tight circle without any shenanigans. My HD Electraglide is much easier in this regard. If the article is true then apparently Buell feels that it needed changing because of all the complaints in the tests by magazines. Kudos to Buell if they have in fact increased the steering lock. A lower first gear is on my wish list also amongst a few other nit picks. Lose the beak and better wind protection. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Steering lock is not a big issue. I took my Ulysses to the MSF range where I teach and could easily do the ERC U-Turn box, and was within a foot of doing the BRC 20' box. Just needed to work on counterweighting it a bit more and staying on the gas. Dragging the rear brake is a must too. I think it can be done though. Lower first gear would be pretty much worthless for anything other than slow traffic (in which I usually just let the bike idle forward in). It's already so low that the front end points skyward with any aggressive use of throttle. The few things I would change would be having a single key for the ignition and bags, an automatic "fast idle" control during warm up (mine idles a bit low when it's cold), better headlights (much better headlights!!). | ||
| Chrisb |
E-glider, Chad is right, you need to increase your ground speed. Its going to seem very unnerving comming from the "bagger" world where you can do a course at a crawl so to speak. Trust me I know I have both a Uly and a Bagger. | ||
| Brat |
I'm with E-Glider, it's ok going up dirt roads, then they turn to tracks, then to ruts and walking tracks, then you need a low gear and more lock. OK, Erik did say it was for unmade roads but why even bother having agressive tread and a heap of clearance? My wish list! A; Slightly lower. B; More lock. C; slightly longer wheelbase. (Change the steering head and do B and C together) D; Another first gear (lower) E; narrower and deeper side bags so I don't get wedged between trees/cars/gateposts F; Factory really tall screen option G; Delete the gay yellow color option  (Message edited by brat on May 03, 2006) | ||
| 2old2bfast |
Okay, here's my 2 cents... Increased steering lock, yes. If that happens through pulling the forks forward, then maybe even a larger diameter front wheel option for those more, dirt oriented out there. Better headlights, of course. Lower first gear, only if it is accompanied by a sixth gear as well. And while we're at it, how about a little more fuel capacity by using the XBRR frame dimensions? Can't hurt to ask... | ||
| Az_m2 |
I certainly wouldn't turn down more steering lock, but as it is, I've had ZERO problems with steering and moving around in tight quarters. Fan noise would be at the top of my list for improvement. | ||
| Royintulsa |
Gay yellow color option? Saturday Night Live had Pierce Brosnan as guest host playing a gay homosexual clothing salesman. He was wearing black. Not one of the Village People wore yellow - black was the predominate color. But, you guys who have black bikes, I am not saying you are gay - not that there is anything wrong with that if you are. But please, just try not to be so defensive! | ||
| Brat |
The next Hell's Angel I bump into I'll point that out to them!  As to your examples, they all wear black 'cause they trying to look straight, at least you yellow guy's are comfortable with your sexuality!  | ||
| Snub13 |
can't we all just get along?????????????? On the fan noise front.. I hit someone with the "loud fans save lives" line the other day, all present were rolling on the ground jiggling like this guy.  | ||
| Chadhargis |
If the fan was quiet, how would you know it was working? I ride with earplugs, and have a race muffler. I can't hear the fan unless I'm stopped. Most people always say the same thing when I shut the bike off and the fan comes on..."Cool! It has a fan?" To which I reply, "Yep, it's air cooled, so the fan continues to cool the engine even after you shut it off. Buell holds the patent on the technology which is why no one else is doing it. The company also hold other patents, let me show you the..." then I show them the brake, the fuel in frame, the oil in the swingarm, the under engine muffler, and the engine mounting system. Just taught an MSF class this weekend, and one student who was dead set on getting a "me too" repli racer said, "I've never seen a bike like that. That thing is cool. Where can you get one? How much do they cost?" All because he heard the fan run. It's just the bike saying, "Hey! Look at me!" | ||
| Thunderbox |
Funny you should mention the fan talking cause I hooked up an MP3 player and a speaker that automatically comes on when the fan is running with the key off and it says "Please stand back while flux capacitors recharge, there is a slight chance of explosion it will be safe to approach when silent". Then it repeats the message. Just kidding they won't blow up until after the capacitors are charged. | ||
| Dragon_slayer |
Hey Chris, if you think all ORANGE Buell riders are gay, how bout fixing us up with your lady and then leaving for the weekend. I thought so!  | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Chrisb, There are a lot of times you need to move slowing and carefully and you can only do this on the ULY by slipping the clutch which is certainly not ideal. The ULY is not a perfect bike and Buell needs to understand that there are aspects of owning this bike that are far from ideal. If you guys want to pretend that working around these problems is better than fixing them then how can this bike get better from the factory?? It's fun but has some problems that need addressing and it's up to us to point them out. The gearing is a bit too fast for first gear in off road situations. Maybe not for everyone, but sometimes I just want to crawl along and to do it you have to burn the clutch. | ||
| Brat |
Ok, I admit, you don't have to be gay to own a yellow Uly, it does help though! Kidding guys! I'm kitting mine out for our Asia adventure and am rapt in the bike, my wish list are, to my mind, improvements to a great bike? I knew it was 200kg and tall when I bought it, just many miles on I find grey areas where the changes I suggest would make it the bike I NEED for all occasions! | ||
| Davo |
A 2007 Uly wish list: 1. I would like to see an engine temp gauge. 2. A more durable and armored protected wiring harness. Now you have a tough bike with a very weak link. 3. A fan on over ride switch for those heavy traffic days. Why wait for China syndrome? Let the fan get a head start. 4. A LED light on the Cam Position Sensor for straight up static timing or maybe a LED on the dash that would strobe with CPS. 5. A more durable tire 8K at least 6. An option to order VDSTS, shop manual and parts manual DIY kit with the bike for the true go anywhere/ fix anything crowd. 7. Trade item 6 for the 24mo. warranty. I will ride a Chinese made moped or walk B4 I bring my ride back to a dealership tech! 8. Steering lock is livable for me. It just adds to the adventure. A great adventure litmus test! 9. Don't fix everything Honda already has that market. Just make the problems fixable. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
10. Instrument cluster should include the means to static time and reset TPS. 11. On the fly fuel usage readout like I have on my Prius. 12. Adjustable windshield like they have standard on the Honda ST1300. That thing must adjust close to a foot in height. Manual adjustment would be fine by me. 13. Larger fuel capacity. 5 gals would do. 14. Lower first gear. You can always start out in second gear but a lower first allows lower speed handling when you need it. 15. Take an inch in height out of the muffler(make it wider) and a corresponding amount out of forks and mono shock. This would lower the bike without sacrificing ground clearance. Very few of us are Andre the Giant like Chadhargis. 16. Cast some fins on the swing arm for cooling and include a oil temp readout on the instrument cluster so that we know when the bike is at condensation boil off temp. Extend the front of the seat down or at the least, engineer a different exit for the leg frying hot air. I shouldn't have to buy an aftermarket heat shield because Buell screwed the pooch on this important matter. 17. Single sided swing arm. Never had a bike with one before but just love the look and the easier back end maintenance aspects. 18. Second front oil cooler or maybe an electronic oil pump that keeps pumping oil through the cylinders after the bike shuts down to clear the heat. That would have to be a way more efficient means of removing the rear cylinder's oil frying heat than just fan forced air. Oil would certainly last longer. Now before you folks start arguing each point on my and Davo's list just realize this is a wish list and nothing else. Everyone of us who has padded Buell's bottom line has a right to have their own wish list without being attacked. | ||
| Chadhargis |
A temp gauge would be nice, as would a fuel gauge. I'm thinking instead of the fan, maybe a water tank that has cooling fins on it and a pump to circulate water around the heads. I bet that would work great!! | ||
| Roadrailer |
Now before you folks start arguing each point on my and Davo's list just realize this is a wish list and nothing else. Everyone of us who has padded Buell's bottom line has a right to have their own wish list without being attacked. I'm not attacking, but if you're willing to post your opinion on an internet message forum, you need to accept the fact that others may be critical of it. That being said, it looks like you want a totally different bike. Personally, I'd like to see an actual fuel gauge, as well as a second LCD display on the dash so I can see both the time and trip mileage (or the odo, distance in reserve, etc) at the same time. It's frustrating to have to try to cycle through all the information, and can be difficult with the tank bag in place and riding gloves on. Not to mention that I'd really rather not turn so much attention to the dash while moving. And while we're at it, how bout some tires that last longer than the current 616s. At 2,000 miles I'm very close to the wear bars. No way I'll make it to 3,000. Such a capable sport touring mount should come with tires that will at least make it to 5,000 miles. | ||
| Jeffs900s |
I would'nt bother with the fuel gauge, they never work anyway. I would like more steering lock. Take the seams off the sides of the seat. The seat's pretty good, but the seams irritate my legs. Make the digital odo/clock etc display more than one item at a time. I'd like to see trip, odo, and clock without pushing the button. Emergency 4-way flashers on a touring bike would be nice. Low seat should be a no-cost option. Keep the tall one give me a low one free. I'm waiting for my bags. Dealer says 10-weeks. I almost didn't buy it because of this. Not acceptable for a "touring" bike. Ceramic coat the head pipes from the factory, I'll pay the extra $. Otherwise great so far. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I've heard horror stories about getting the bags. I ordered mine from Daves and he had the whole set in stock. Shipped then to me that day and I had them 3 days later. | ||
| Court |
>>>>I'm waiting for my bags. Dealer says 10-weeks. Let me understand this. Are you waiting 10 weeks for the Buell luggage for the Ulysses? If so. . . drop me a note with your phone number. Totally solvable dude. . . sounds like a miscommuncationalalism Court | ||
| Daves |
I have bags in stock. 1-866-757-1761 ask for Dave in the sales dept. I will be back at work tomorrow, you could have bags by this weekend |
