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Kevin27
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 08:32 pm: |
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My new Uly in it's new color--Carbon!! Thanks Trojan. Every thing has been replaced, front plate,beak,front fender,rear hugger,chain guard,r/s scoop,l/s scoop,oil cooler scoop,air box cover,hand guards and lower cowling. I have more pictures but I'm having trouble shrinking them to fit. Kevin
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Kevin27
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 08:40 pm: |
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Ready to tour, Buell tank bag (powered by Powerlet) Garmin 2720 GPS and Camcorder mounted on RAM mounts.
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Kevin27
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 08:48 pm: |
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One more
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Pupu
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 11:34 pm: |
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god dang, that is on lump of change you just spent there, i have touble just getting the right side scoop. |
Ka5ysy
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 07:07 am: |
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Two questions: 1. What effect is the right side air scoop having on the cooling fan run time? 2. Does the bike go faster now? Really nice setup you have... great job! Doug |
Az_m2
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:06 am: |
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Yes, would like to hear how much, if any the right side air scoop reduces fan running. Also, will the right side air scoop be protected by the frame if the bike is dropped? Thanks |
Kevin27
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:31 am: |
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When I put the right side scoop on, it also went in for the 1000 mile service and I had the race ecm, filter and Drummer installed. Too many things done at once to be sure what caused what. All I do know is that my fan hardly runs at all now. It has only come on twice in the last 800 miles, both times stuck in traffic, then turns back off after a couple of miles. If I coast in the last block home it won't come on when I turn the bike off either. I'm down in central Florida and the temps haven't been over 82 so we'll see how it works this summer. As far as the frame puck protecting the R/S scoop, on level ground it should, the puck still sticks out farther than the scoop. Kevin |
Thunderbox
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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I have the distinct feeling that very few people believe what I tell them about the fan. The fan should come on and off whenever the engine is within operating temperatures. It is primarily there to regulate temps. If it is not coming on anymore, your bike is running too cool. That is not good. It certainly is worse than having the fan come on and off. Engines need to be at operating temps to work their best. Doing mods to your bike to reduce the time the fan is on could be a very bad thing. The parts in the engine only fit properly when they are between a certain temp. Let the fan do it's intended job and worry when it doesn't come on and only then. |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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I believe you, T-box. I was about to say that the fan is there as part of the design. A right side scoop looks cool, but if it did anything at all to aid in reliability or longevity of the engine, I think Buell would have stuck a plastic one on there. I can't imagine they are sitting there reading this remembering the fan discussion as follows: Engineering: "Eureka! We can add a right side air scoop! We don't need that silly fan after all. Let's revise the drawings and replace the fan with a right side air scoop." Purchasing: "(high-pitched whining sound)But what are we going to do with all those fans we picked up from China? If we don't keep buying the fans, the children won't make any money to buy food for their parents." Engineering: "Okay, shitcan the right side air scoop, maybe the idiot customers won't notice the fan." |
Gowindward
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:17 am: |
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I agree with T-box too. The fan is just like a thermostat in a water cooled system. The right side scoop is cool, but it hides that pair of beautiful big JUGS. The only time I hear the fan is when I turn the bike off and remove my helmet and ear plugs. At that point I always have a big grin on my face and could care less that the bike is begging for more. |
Chadhargis
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:24 am: |
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I'm in agreement with you Thunder. I have, from a good source, that the right side scoop isn't necessary. The oil cooler, the left side scoop, and if you look carefully, you see there is a small right side scoop feeding some air to the rear cylinder...so Buell DID put one there...it's smaller, the swingarm transferring heat from the oil, and of course the fan all combine to cool the bike. Now that my bike has over 1500 miles on it, the fan seldom comes on during rides. It comes on when I turn off the bike, but almost immediately goes into low speed mode. This is all without any additional cooling. I'm in Tennessee, so we get our fair share of hot, humid weather. I'll see what happens in the summer. I'm changing to Red Line synthetic at 3000 miles (as per their recomendation). That should reduce temps some too. I think the fan is cool. I went to meet some riding friends for dinner the other night, and when I shut off the bike, the fan came on. They all snickered and made comments. I jumped off the bike and exclaimed, "Loud fans save lives!". Can't say I give a rats behind about what they think of my bike. I'm the one typically out in front on rides...so when they learn to use their 160hp, they can make fun of me. LOL! |
Thunderbox
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
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Wow. I was expecting some flak about this but this is great. So there is a few of us who understand what temperature regulation is all about. The other bad thing about having the scoop on the bike is when you get out first thing in the morning and the bike is not warm it really increases the amount of time to get the bike up to normal operating temperatures. Everyone knows that most engine wear occurs before the engine gets up to temperature. I have done a fair amount of oil analysis and there is no doubt that vehicles started and run cold have way more wear particulate in the oil than vehicles that are kept in a heated garage. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 01:15 pm: |
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I pack my engine in dry ice. |
Dennis_c
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 01:34 pm: |
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I am glad it is still black because there faster than the gay orange ones. |
Az_m2
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 02:20 pm: |
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Now that my bike has over 1500 miles on it, the fan seldom comes on during rides. It comes on when I turn off the bike, but almost immediately goes into low speed mode. This is all without any additional cooling. If my fan operated that way, I would be happy and not be looking for an add-on . . . but . . . with my bike, after 10 minutes on the road, my fan runs on high continually, regardless of ambient temp. I have never heard it shut down after kicking on. This is while riding at a mellow pace in 35-40 degree temps. Is that per design? It doesn't sound like it based on other folks experience. I still need to have my dealer check it out. I've got over 6k miles on the bike now. This topic really interests me for the reason stated above, thanks for the discussion. |
Thunderbox
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 02:43 pm: |
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That may be a faulty temp sensor that is causing that. You should take it in and have it looked at. I know my fan comes on and goes off while I ride. |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:01 pm: |
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my fan comes on and goes off while I ride. Mine too. With the bike on the highway for an extended ride, I noticed it will come on momentarily with a significant decrease in speed. And it always runs when the motor is stopped. It will go off again after a short while. |
Kevin27
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:06 pm: |
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I don't think there is much danger of my motor running too cool with the extra scoop. That being said I also don't believe the fan was designed to run all the time. All I know is I feel better knowing my motor is running below the fan turn on point, not at some unknown temp one or one hundred degrees above it. |
Thunderbox
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:14 pm: |
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Maybe you have a sensor that was not calibrated right when it was manufactured. Maybe you should get that tested. Way too much concern about the fan. In hindsight maybe Buell should have made the bike without the fan and let it run hot. More people would be happy about that than they are about the fan running. Makes me wonder. |
Lorazepam
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 04:09 pm: |
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I will take the fan running over the annoying whine that comes from the servo assist on the BMW brakes. That has to be the most annoying noise in the world. |
2old2bfast
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:58 pm: |
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Mine too, does not kick back off until the ride is over, so I was thinking that the reports I read about the drummer minimizing the fan operation was a good thing... Then again, maybe it's just because even in the winter it's pretty warm in Florida..? |
Brat
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:38 pm: |
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I like the way people watch the bike with the fan running as I walk away, they're either wondering A; whether it's about to blow up (non-mechanical minded) B; or it's turbo'd |
Ka5ysy
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 07:24 pm: |
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. . . but . . . with my bike, after 10 minutes on the road, my fan runs on high continually, regardless of ambient temp. I have never heard it shut down after kicking on. This is while riding at a mellow pace in 35-40 degree temps. Is that per design? . . . Warp speeds cause this to happen |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 07:42 pm: |
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Ka, Mine did that for about the first 1k miles. I haven't done anything to the bike and it only runs occasionally now at 3700 miles. I hardly notice it anymore. I do believe that the bike must be allowed to regulate its own temperature according to the way it was designed. I don't think the right side scoop hurts anything, but I think it's like man-breasts only considerably more attractive. |
Ka5ysy
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:00 pm: |
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It has occurred to me that if you have both scoops installed, it would be really neat to add some of those "DANGER, JET INTAKE" decals used on Navy birds. That would give somebody pause !! |
Az_m2
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:54 pm: |
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From what I've read, folks have quite different experiences with fan operation. Would be nice if all I have is a faulty temp sensor. Otherwise, I'm getting the scoop. |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:24 pm: |
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We need to think of a name for this ridiculous fan phobia. heatafanaphobia? |
Lorazepam
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:59 pm: |
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vortiphobia? |
Ka5ysy
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:10 pm: |
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Fangate |
Az_m2
| Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:14 pm: |
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Amazing timing. The ride home for lunch today was the first time ever my fan has not come on during the ride. Kicked on when I shut the bike down, but I expected that. hmmm |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:46 pm: |
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How many miles do you have on the bike? |
Az_m2
| Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 08:35 pm: |
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about 6300 miles same happened on the way home after work |
Birdmanrh
| Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 08:44 pm: |
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I live in the Valley of the Sun, I doubt my fan will ever shut off. I am wondering how the bike is going to be in the 115-degree weather! We will see...... |
Az_m2
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:48 am: |
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I was pretty hot when I first got my bike (I purchased it over Labor Day weekend). Fan ran the same then as it does now. I thought it was due to break-in. |
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