| Author | Message | ||
     Kevin27 |
Hello, just got off the phone with the Harley shop, took my Uly in Friday for the 1000 mile service and to have the k&n and race ecm put on. They said the ecm (part #32620-03Y) will not work on the Uly. He said they even called the factory and were told it won't work. I was told the bike would not start with the new ecm. I called Dave at Appleton who told me it should work (he sells a lot of them) and I gave them his number so we'll see if they even call him. Any ideas? Is there anyone here with a Uly and a race ecm? (Drummer exhaust)Thanks, Kevin | ||
| De50man |
Tell them it's your bike, and they work for you. If it is indeed the XB12 Race ECM, then it will work just fine after it has the TPS reset. Be absolutely sure they reset the TPS and it will work. I have a Buell Ulysses with a Race ECM, K&N Filter, and Jardine slip-on exhaust. (Message edited by de50man on January 31, 2006) | ||
| Stevenknapp |
I'm new to Buell's. What does the Race ECM change? | ||
| Chadhargis |
It's a complete new computer. It has a different (richer) fueling map than the stock ECU. | ||
| Brat |
I've got the complete race kit on my Uly, the TPS reset was the only adjustment needed to get it going! I had it fitted before I picked it up , now I wish I had of changed after run-in as I'd like to know how the standard ECM felt at low revs! | ||
| Clayman |
De50man. how does your uly perform compared to stock. i got the drummer but am wanting to put the ecm and filter on. | ||
| Clayman |
I have found that there is all kinds of missinformation out there when it comes to the uly. i even talked to a sevice rep at buell that talked to a tech, they said no to the exhaust upgrade. They said its not coming and wont be. I was in the dark till i found this site, i think the only way to go with the uly is aftermarket, and get informed yourself, then tell them what you want them to do. | ||
| Mikej |
Just a question, but what cams are in the Uly compared to the other XB 12 engines/models? Could that be the reason they say the race module won't work in a Uly????? | ||
| Thunderbox |
I don't know what all the fuss is about with the race ECM. Go to http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/10398.html?1059591514 You can see that the race ECM is a complete waste of finances. No gains at all. At any rate I would have expected the race ECM to produce a little more at high RPMs which is probably not where you want power on the Uly. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
Thunderbox, that's not the race ECM, which changes fuel and ignition. That's on a bike with a carb and is just an ignition timing change. No? | ||
| Thunderbox |
I went back to the site and that bike in the pictures is not an M2. It could be fuel injected but not the same system as the XBs use. Therefor you are correct in saying that dyno chart isn't really applicable. Why is there no dynos on the XBs ECMs as it is a very popular modification. I still think most if not all gains will be in the upper RPM range as it is a "race ecm" after all. Does anyone have a part number for the lighter flywheel that would fit the Uly. That may help a lot for eccelleration. | ||
| Buelldyno_guy |
Take a look under the American Sport Bike banner or give Al a call. ... The race ECM works well, but is needed it you have made changes to the exhaust or intake (air cleaner). You can also make those changes and re-mapp the stock ECM using Direct link. The fuel and timing tables are different in the Race ECM, but can be programed into the stock ECM. Both Al and I have a "ULY" and are at 100 RWHP with a micron and Open Airbox Kit. ... Terry | ||
| Steveford |
I put the Buell race kit on my Ulysses and it works fine. | ||
| Daves |
I talked to the tech this morning and I think everything is on it's way to being alright. | ||
| Clayman |
steveford. how does it compair to when your bike was stock | ||
| Blake |
Thunderous one, That bike is indeed an M2 with just an "ignition module". The timing curve is a bit different is all and as demonstrated by Aaron in his article, a slight adjustment to the static timing is enough to compensate and yield virtually identical performance. Race ECM is a whole other deal.  | ||
| Opto |
Is it true or is it not true that a Uly motor is identical to any XB12 motor ever built? (except for the g/box and clutch spring changes in the 06 models) If it is true then there is 2 years of collective experience with these motors on this website with the XB12S and XB12R models, which will be of great benefit to new Uly owners. | ||
| Kevin27 |
Well, I called twice yesterday but was unable to talk to the tech or manager, they were both "out". The fact that they have not called to tell me the bike is done, as it should be, tells me they are still working on it. Maybe they ordered another ecm to try, who knows? I hope I hear something today. Thanks Dave for all your help, I didn't know who else to call, and thanks to all who chimed in that it would work, I knew I wasn't crazy! Kevin | ||
| De50man |
Clayman, it needs it the ECM to run smoothly. The ECM has a new map that enriches the Air/Fuel mix. It runs awesome since I got the ECM and air filter, however, the Jardine pipe is junk. Just ran it today, lower HP and Torque than stock without ECM and Air filter... | ||
| Kevin27 |
Just to let everyone know , they did get the race ECM to work. I am very pleased with the way it runs, feels stronger, wheelies better!! | ||
| Daves |
Was it the ECM or them? | ||
| Kevin27 |
They tried the ECM on a demo 12s and it worked, when they put it back on mine they got it to work so I believe I can safely say it was them. I think they just don't work on a lot of buells. Thanks again for your help, Kevin | ||
| Clayman |
SO Kevin, would you say that the ecm and filter are worth getting. do you notice more of a difference with them over just the drummer | ||
| Kevin27 |
I can feel a difference, mine ran a little rough below 2500rpm and now it's fine down to 2000rpm. I also noted it pulls the front end up a lot easier now. I haven't put a whole tank through it yet so I don't know what the mileage change will be but it runs so good I don't care. Bottom line I think the K&N and ECM are well worth it! | ||
| Steveford |
Clayman, Sorry to be so slow in responding. I put the race kit on right off the bat and it only has 280 miles on the clock due to Pennsylvania's weather and waiting for the bodywork to come back from the painter. As far as performance differences, I've only ridden either freshly uncrated 12s so couldn't get on the gas or taken a test ride once a race kit is installed. Can't joy ride on customer's bikes for a lark! Compared to the stock set up, it gives you a lot more music, less weight and, I assume, a bit more power. 10% increase in torque and horsepower sound about right? (Message edited by SteveFord on February 07, 2006) | ||
| Tel |
Okay so if I understand this right the "Race kit" and muffler will work with the Uly? | ||
| Steveford |
The race kit is comprised of the air filter, ECM and muffler so, yes. There supposedly is some clearance issue with a belt guard or sidestand but I didn't encounter any. Just popped it on, reset the TPS, AFV and timing as part of the set up and it worked great. Hurry up, Spring! | ||
| Tel |
Thanks it may be easier getting the race kit in Aus than trying to get a drummer. Still looking into it. | ||
| Daves |
I can send you a race kit. Badweb price is 589.45 for the whole kit,plus shipping of course. I'll be back at work on Tuesday or you can PM me thru my profile. Dave | ||
| Thunderbox |
If you want most of the power and torque benefit down low go for the Drummer. If you want the power and torque at higher RPMs then go with the race Kit. The word Race should give you an idea of what the "Race Kit" is for. I have bought several performance exhausts for my various bikes and mostly I have been disappointed because the gains were all at the top rather than where I do my riding. This of course is just my HO. |
