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2old2bfast
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has it occurred to anyone else out there that riding a Uly is like driving a 2 wheeled version of an H2..?

I mean sure it's more responsive and handles a whole loot better, but it sure feels like there are more than a few parallels. I mean the view from up high... The fact that it'll take you 99% of anywhere you'd probably want to go, but at the same time will see more use on roads that any car can travel... Or for that matter the tough looks they both carry...

I'm not one that has ever been able to justify the cost of an H2 and will probably drive a 4X4 pick-up the rest of my days, but in a sense I think for about $11,000 I got the closest thing to the H2 that's out there (and gets somewhat better mileage)!
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Dr_greg
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let's hope not. I love my Ulysses, but, uh, how can I say this...well, better not say anything.
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Brat
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny you should say that, to any non bike riding friends I describe the Uly as the bike equivalent of a hummer! : )
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most people who ask me what I ride don't know what a Buell is. Sadly, I tell them it's a "Harley Sportbike". Sometimes it's easier that way since most people think the only bikes out there are "Harleys" or "Crotch Rockets", so I explain the Uly as a mix of both. Seems to make sense to them.

Sad....I know, but they don't usually want to know anything more after I tell them that. : (
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2old2bfast
Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Brat"s way of describing might be the easiest to those non-riders out there (poor souls)...

Maybe most won't agree since the H2 is perhaps the ultimate example of a "cager", but I was thinking that there were definitely a few parallels between the two. Heck, if I were a Buell dealer and got to the point that I had an extra Uly in my inventory, I might even ask a Hummer dealer if they wanted to display it in their showroom. I mean why not, you can buy all kinds of "Hummer" branded stuff (I think even cologne now!), and I think the Uly fits the tough image that the Hummer crowd is looking for... I bet it would drive a few inquiries back at the Buell dealer that did it!

Just another thought...
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Dragon_slayer
Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2old2bfast, Not such a bad ideal. Let's hope they still have enough credit left to buy the Uly. Hey,if they can not afford the Hummer they can then buy the bike!
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Lovehamr
Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is just me but I'd never compare my 12X to a Suburban with an overly expensive, wanabe, boxy body. EEESh!
Steve
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Dmcutter
Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Lovehamr. I hate Hummers-I think they're for poseurs and Arnold Schwarzeneger Commando wannabes. I hope that Ulys see a lot more use off pavement than Hummers do.
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Brat
Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd never buy a hummer but they look like a heap of fun to drive, say what you like but they look tough! I did see some in Thailand being driven by 5'4" tall Thai Soldiers, that was funny!
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Court
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm about to buy a new vehicle. Explain what a Hummer will do, here in New York City, that would make it worth considering.

There.

That ends that thread.

And, by the way, what do you carry in a pickup truck box that is like 19" long?

: )
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Brotherbuell
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
Not just yet! There were a number of times when I wished I was in an pseudo armored assault vehicle in NYC. And by the way....

XB12X = 50 mpg
Hummer= 50 gpm
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Madsx
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd love an H1 with a Tow missle and machine guns for the ride to work every day.
Dont know what would be more expensive, the gas or the ammo?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

F150 or F250SD?

Either more practical?

4wd or 2WD

Gas? Diesel?
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Dmcutter
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gas. Diesel is still about 75 cents a gallon more expensive than unleaded around these parts.
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Solarbri
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah what kind of bullshite is that any way...Deisel fuel $.75 more than unleaded??!!??! What tha...





g-dub
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Sarinstructor
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Solarbri,
Judging by your last little shot at the President, I'm assuming you're a little left of center. Instead of hanging the President ask your colleagues (George Soros, Michael Moore, et al) why there has to be 40 different blends of gasoline and 10+ additives in diesel. In order to appease every special interest environmental group that comes along would be the correct answer. This is a motorcycle website, not move on dot org. Please try and keep it that way. Thanks.

Todd
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sarin,
Remember to remove the mote from your own eye first.
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2hogs
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

Just went though that process myself.
The F150 -vs- F250 that is. I've been the proud owner of a F150 Supercab 6.5' box 4X4 Lariat for 2 weeks now.

I looked at what 2005s local dealers had left and ranked them in order of features. Most had F150s and a few had F250 XL models. This is my only 4 wheel vehicle and XL models just won't cut it. So I opted for the F150 with the options important to me.

I've put 1000 miles on it and it's solid to date. The 35.7 gal gas tank allows me to commute (500miles/week) all week on a single tank. I hand calculated 2 tanks with an avg mpg of 15.5. The computer has been as high as 19 on the highway at a steady 66mph and a low of 12.3 on twisty mountain backroad. Expect number to be sure, but I always hand calc at fillups.

Cheers
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Sarinstructor
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know, I know and I'm sorry Solarbri. I get bombarded with the political crap all day whenever I watch the news, and personally, I'm tired of it. I log on here to read about motorcycles and stuff, and it seems to sneak it's way here too. Sometimes it gets a little frustrating that's all. Once again, I apologize.
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Sarinstructor
Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
My brother just bought an F-350 and is looking into the Bio-Diesel stuff. He was saying that for around $2500 you can buy a kit to "brew" your own stuff for around $.70/gallon. If that's correct the initial $2500 should pay for itself rather quickly. Supposedly it's better for your engine and the only drawback is your truck smells like a huge rolling french fry going down the road.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ford... Diesel... Win-win situation all the way around. From rear to forward: 98 Ranger 10' stakebed, 01 F-650 24' flatbed, 2002 F-250SD Lariat Longbed 4x4, and the 97 F-150 is on the left in the driveway
f-series extravaganza
Yes, I like my Fords. The 97 F-150 is a 4.2L V6 automatic with overdrive. After 320,000 miles I have only had to replace the fuel pump. Other than that I change the oil and spark plugs, a couple of fuel filters and lots of tires. Proof that the USA can produce a quality product at a reasonable price.
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Brad1445
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your Truck makes me hard!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

f-250

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Solarbri
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yo Sarin, why not complain about truck talk on a motorcycle web site? But Biodiesel?... you hit the nail right on the head. A non partisan, good for america, good for farmers, good for our economy, good for environmentalists and non-environmentalists (is that even a word?.. or are you really a person??) and good for your damn car also. I drive a big Dodge 2500 with a cummins and the wife drives a VW diesel (50 mpg) and in our small (mostly right wing) podunk Idaho town, enough folks got together to organize a biodiesel co-op and we now have a 10,000 gallon tank of retail B100 (100% biodiesel). Its a great thing and it feels good driving around under veggie power knowing my money stays here in the USA and doesn't go to the mid east. We do have to mix it with dino diesel during the cold months but additives are being worked on continously. The Bio diesel we get is made by a company called Blue Sun out of Colorado. They are working closely with farmers to promote organic techniques and will not by seed stock that has been genetically modified. Does that pidgeon hole them into being "enviro freak" or "left wing" ? So maybe my little smily face art was offensive... I apologize. But if you can really find anything positive to think or say about George W. Bush (besides ganging up under the same God)... I apologize again.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

somebody lock this thread please and ban further political tangents. sheesh!

As far as truck talk goes, isn't this the "Big Bad and Dirty adventure board"?
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2hogs
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Truck talk on a motorcycle site? I think trucks and motorcycles go together as trucks are very versatile rigs! Commute to work, hit the store, haul stuff, etc. Kinda why I bought the XB12X --> it's an all round motorcycle :-)

If bio-diesel was easy to get here on the East coast, I'd have a F250 diesel. I'd really like a V6 (or straight 5) diesel option for the F150 though.

Cheers
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Yeah what kind of bullshite is that any way...Deisel fuel $.75 more than unleaded??!!??! What tha... "

Next time some company wants to build a refinery in your area, say YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love Ulys, like trucks (especially diesel powered ones), but have no use for H2's. If you want a Hummer dammit, buy a real one, not a Chevy Suburban with a square-arse body on it!.

H2 humor (yellow light for language):

http://fuh2.com/
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Brucelee
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I apologize. But if you can really find anything positive to think or say about George W. Bush (besides ganging up under the same God)... I apologize again. "

When is an apology not an apology?
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny how we blame politicians for all that's wrong with the country. The changes enacted by a President often aren't felt until a decade or more after they leave office, and the President doesn't enact laws all by himself. We have Congress to thank too.

If you really want to point the finger in the oil price debacle, then follow the money. Oil companies make HUGE amounts of money. Do they want fuel efficient cars and trucks? Hell no!! They want us burning up fuel as fast as we can. They have a HUGE lobby. As long as oil is considered a "scarce" commodity and the banter about how we're going to run out soon, and the world will come to an end continues, the oil barrons will continue to use the law of supply and demand against us. Making just enough gasoline to supply the need so they can keep prices high.

There are VAST stores of oil in the United States. Much of it in "protected" land in Alaska. Yes...that miserable frozen tundra that can barely support life for 8 months of the year, but was protected to apease the greenies.

Now, I agree that we need to find feasible, affordable, renewable alternative fuels...but to do that, we've got to hit the oil barons in their pocketbooks by opening up the massive stores of cheap domestic oil. Then the supply will outstrip demand and we'll see gas going for under a buck again. The oil lobby will lose power in the process.

How many alternative fuel patents do you think oil companies own? LOTS! They buy them up and sock them away. If oil does run out, they want to be the once to supply you with the "new" alternative fuel.

Countries like Brazil have been using corn alcohol (aka Ethanol) blended with unleaded fuel for years. It's cheap to make, and renewable (just grow more corn). The US could do it as well, but.....that might hurt the profits of oil companies.

Don't mind seeing people point fingers and demand change, but let's not point fingers at Bush. He didn't make things we way they are. They've been that way for years and years. If you're going to blame anyone, find out who first accepted a special interest money contribution. I'm betting is was someone who's long dead by now.

So...before I step off my soapbox. Let's stop blaming Bush (or Clinton, or Carter, etc...) for our problems and find a way to fix them. Just like the example above of a town coming together to use Bio-diesel. That's a real grassroots effort. Imagine if we could get the entire country to do it??
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