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Superglide
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've noticed a annoying rattle somewhere from the tank cover area to the handle bars, @ 2000 to 2300 rpm, any insight?

I tried to hold rpm's and identify without any luck so far. Sounds like a clutch or brake lever rattle but I experience no change when holding these items to prevent the noise.
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Stevem123
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take the flyscreen cover off and look at the horn. Mine was rattling against the inside of the flyscreen cover and caused the same symptom.
I turned mine around backwards to clear everything and that fixed it.
The horn sounded much better after the fix also, where as before, it sounded like a cow in serious pain.....

BC Steve
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Thunderbox
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just did the same thing to mine and the rattle is gone. It was annoying as hell.
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Buelluk
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the same rattle ,I will try the fix when I get back to the bike.
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Superglide
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stevem123,

Thanks for the fix, this took care of the rattle...
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Brotherbuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the same problem. Thanks for the fix Steve123. This may be one for the factory. I've attached a picture showing the rub mark of the back of the fairing and the fix.
fairing rub
fix
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Hooaah
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed the same thing but I'm not sure its coming from the horn. And while I can't see any scuffing on the flyscreen I can detect the slightest bit of wear on the leading edge of the horn's diaphragm. I'm going to flip it anyway and see if the noise disappears. Sorry if this is a dumb question (my last physics class was 30 years ago) but doesn't turning it reduce the volume of the sound directed ahead of you? Just playing around in the garage it seems louder standing in front of the bike than it does standing behind it. Is that my imagination or is the loss, if any, insignificant? That wouldn't be hard for me to believe either as although the factory installed horn does direct the sound directly ahead, it only goes that way for about 2 mm until it strikes the back of the flyscreen. Just curious. Thanks for the pic - I spent 10 minutes trying to figure out how you flipped it around until I saw you took it off the hangar. DOH!
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most bike horns are weak anyway. No one in a car with the radio on talking on a cell phone is going to hear it no matter what direction it's pointing. You need a set of these if you want people to take notice.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002KL7GO/sr=1-1/qid=1130514735/r ef=sr_1_1/102-4329522-3585717?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=12990461&s=automotive&v=glance
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Stevem123
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually if you look at the shapes inside there you'll see that the flyscreen will act like a resonator and transfer those vibrations outward like a voice coil cone. It's a hard plastic and resonates quite well.
Think of it like a drum being hit from the inside!

BC Steve
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Javadog
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of horns, has anyone heard the ones sold by PIAA or Hella? They look good on their websites.
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Hooaah
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK. This is starting to get to me. No matter what I've tried (spacers, positioning, etc) I can't get the horn to function when I reverse it. What am I missing? All I get is that "sick cow sound" referred to above. I end up reinstalling it the original way. I'm still not sure that this is the source of the noise but I guess the only way to know for sure is to either leave it reversed and ride the bike. If there is some trick I'm missing, please let me know.

BTW, I did notice the first time I took it apart that the holes on the one end of the bracket that holds the horn are significantly larger than the other ends. Also these holes are not perfectly round so I'm wondering if the vibrating "reamed" them out. I really cranked it down last night - and I was vibration free for the first 5 miles then it appeared again. Any advice is appreciated
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Morticia
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Turning the horn around sure got rid of my Uly's rattle problem & the horn still works as normal. When I removed the screen you could see a rub mark (black paint worn off) on the horn where it had been rubbing.
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Dmcutter
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had no issues with mine, but used lots of blue loctite on the nut. And not to state the obvious, but make sure the wires are firmly attached...
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Hooaah
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool. I work today until 11 pm ...now I'm thinking where can I get loctite at 11 pm...

Don
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Rhinowerx
Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I replaced the stock horn with a 132 DB high-tone Fiamm Highway Blaster available from PepBoys - it fits neatly without any mods, works with the stock wiring and sounds a lot better (louder).
I haven't had a chance to ride with it mounted yet (still waiting on the Drummer), but it doesn't look like it will vibrate at all



Cheers
-Jack
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Hooaah
Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much for the Blaster?
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Rhinowerx
Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$16 plus tax
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Hooaah
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After a couple more close calls in traffic went out and bought one (the low frequency version). I couldn't fit it in due to the wiring bundles behind it but I did use the mounting bracket and set if off to the viewers left abit and it fits fine. Don't know if its louder to others but its sure loud to me!
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Rhinowerx
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are two different versions of the Fiamm Highway Blaster - one is narrower than the other. The (narrow version) horn that I bought was model 'E' - clearly marked on the front of the packaging. The fit - as pictured - is snug, but works without interference from the wiring harness

-Jack
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Hooaah
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Next the greatest pic - but hey, it was from a phone in the garage at night
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