| Author | Message | ||
     Aldaytona |
Did someone forget the "G"? I absolutely love Buell motorcycles and have since the beginning but I am not a Dirt/Adventure bike kinda guy. GS, KTM, Multistrada, ect= UGLY. Come on now, I can't be the only one............. Of course, this won't prevent me from buying one, some thought the RR was ugly as well. | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
I think you really need to see it in person. From the pictures it almost looks a bit "stubby". I think when folks see it in person it will change a lot of minds. | ||
| Court |
>>>>I am not a Dirt/Adventure bike kinda guy. Oppps...single largest misconception among the "seen pictures; not the bike" crowd. I need to ask you, to save you from making a huge mistake, to ride this bike first. Several Harley-Davidson (non-buell dealers) have cited the Ulysses and THE bike that will replace their FLH. . . . based on, you guessed it, COMFORT. Ride the bike and see why CYCLE WORLD called it 2nd only to the Gold Wing. If you need help scoring a ride, drop me a note and let me know where you are. Court | ||
| Aldaytona |
Don't get me wrong, I know I'll like to ride it, hell, even the guys from Cycle World all liked it, and better than the other highly rated brands. I've ridden almost every model of Buell already and own a few right now, was going to add a City X to my collection, but probably add a Uly instead. | ||
| Xring |
I know what you mean, Aldaytona. To me, this whole category of bikes is ugly...Although the Uly is by far the best looking one. Still not as good-looking as the XB-S. Good luck, Bill | ||
| Outrider |
I can't wait to see what Motorcyclist, Rider and MCN have to say about the XB12X. I don't put much faith in Motorcyclist, but the other two should have some really interesting reviews. Now, with that said, Reg Kittrelle's writings on the XB12X are all I really need. Same goes for Jerry Haughton's upcoming trip and photo essay. The rest will just toss in some pics, ergo dimensions and perhaps a dyno run if they get one to test long enough. | ||
| Patrickh |
Court, Do you have an inside line on dealerships which will be demo-ing the bike. I cant find one up in Albany and I want to ride it...finally a XB that is big enough for me! | ||
| Whodom |
It would be really interesting to see a dyno run on the bike Jerry rides AFTER he's ridden it to see how it compares to what the bike mags come up with. It sounds like he plans to give it a proper break in during his ride. Any one have an idea if magazine tester bikes are "pre-broken in" before the mags get them? | ||
| Choptop |
How dare you rain on Buell's parade.... they launch an exciting new bike and barnch out into a new market niche and all you can do is complain about a bike you havent even seen yet. Your opinion as to whether or not the bike is ugly means nothing. Its is the most beautiful bike in the world and I have a mathmatical formula that proves it. Let be the first to start insulting you... your father was a hampster, and your mother smelled of Eldeberries. (just running down all of the things I've learned in other badwebs posts) gee... sounds kinda stupid dont it? | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Outrider, any specific areas of the Uly that are most important to you in terms of considering a prospective purchase? put another way, anything about the Uly's bedside manner you want me to focus on during my ride that is particularly meaningful to you as you perhaps ponder adding a Ulysses to your fleet? Whodom, GREAT idea. no promises, but i'll see if that can be arranged when i'm done giving the bike a thoroughly proper break in. Ferris | ||
| Dsergison |
Several Harley-Davidson (non-buell dealers) have cited the Ulysses and THE bike that will replace their FLH. . . . based on, you guessed it, COMFORT. what crack smoking chrome dealer were you talking to? the two are so worlds apart I can't even imagine the thought of a "Harley rider" trading. I'm sure the Uly is great and all but what the heck Court? And comparing a Uly to a goldwing? same thing. I forsee a <%3 dent in either market. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Dsergison, in the Cycle World piece it says, in part, "Only Honda Gold Wings and their like offer better passenger accommodations than the Ulysses." strong stuff, and it lifted my eyebrows when i read that. hope it's true. three days of my ride will be two-up, so we shall soon see. FB | ||
| Bomber |
while I, too, have difficulty iamgining bagger riders morphing into Uly riders, the FLH pilots I know are more open minded than might first seem to be the case -- if it truely IS a comfier mount (we all know it'll perform "better" (in quotes as one man's ceiling is another man's floor, yes?), I can see FLH guys switchin, ez and while there are GoldWing owners that are HOG-like in their brand loyalty, many of them came from other brands (BMW, to name one obvious one), go to other brands, looking for the "perfect" rig -- I can see them switchin, too neither bike will be put out to pasture as a result of Uly sales, but I can easily imagine their sales being dented a bit course, this is all without benefit of having seen one, much less riding it, but I've got a formula to prove it ;-} | ||
| Dsergison |
wow, because the passenger department of the Uly LOOKS like the ••• end of my xr400. what vague verbage they used. I wonder if "Honda Goldwing and their like" includes: every other touring bike ever made? | ||
| Court |
>>>>the two are so worlds apart I can't even imagine the thought of a "Harley rider" trading. Okay....I'll let them know they screwed up. Look. . . . the foolish folks had dropped Buells. . . came to Colorado to the Harley-Davidson dealer meeting. . . . rode a Ulysses . . . fell in love. . . declared it a wonderfully capable and comfy tourer and bought the damned thing. Me? Try to explain a guy who thinks a softtail is high tech and more noise is more power? Yeah.... You will see, in other threads on this board, tales of non-Buell dealer with XB12X's on the showrooms floors. If you see this ask if it is a "new UNTITLED bike"...  >>>Dsergison, in the Cycle World piece it says, in part, "Only Honda Gold Wings and their like offer better passenger accommodations than the Ulysses." Got a complaint? . . tell Steve Anderson. In addition to being one of the top motorcycle industry journalists, he's also a P.E. who specializes in motorcycles. He's perfectly capable of defending his statements. Bear in mind that he, unlike you, is handicapped by having ACTUALLY ridden the bike while you and I are left with hypothetical opinions based on an article "to be released". I feel. . . so. . . so . . . . so STUPID. Snail be on to something. Court | ||
| Reepicheep |
Just talked to my local Buell dealer in Dayton (a pretty good one). The earliest they will have an XB12x is the ONE they will get in October... | ||
| Dsergison |
Hey it's Vague.... to me it reads "only other touring baggers offer better accomodations than the new Buell touring bagger" -admit it! So, youre extatic about all the buzz. But you only allow the blindly praising buzz? Youre slamming me asking questions not having ridden the bike when there are none at my dealer? I quantified my other statement. -I said I can't see the Uly taking significant market share from chrome baggers and goldwings. -you must have talked to the one guy in 30 who did actually go from Chrome to Roam? Do you feel it indicative of the average experience? What share you;d you guess would trade? I have no idea, 3% is my wild guess. I sure hope it wasn't targeted at them. I thought it was an Adventure Tourer. It seems like an awsome one at that. Am I allowed to say that? I havent ridden one  Dan | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Got a complaint? . . tell Steve Anderson. no complaints, with Steve Anderson or otherwise, except the fact that FBRAT is not here yet... | ||
| Rkc00 |
I am one of the Harley/Buell owners. I have a 2005 Road Glide and a 2003 XB9S. At this time I feel I have the best of both worlds with the two bikes. I am hoping that the XB12X will be the one bike for me. I will be trading in my XB9S for a XB12X hopefully in the next month. If the XB12X does what I need (handling/touring), I will sell my Road Glide next spring and get my wife a Street Rod. Mike Long Island, NY Court, Where can you get me a test ride? | ||
| Imaposer |
Just talked to my local Buell dealer in Dayton (a pretty good one). The earliest they will have an XB12x is the ONE they will get in October... Whew. That makes me feel better. Work had me within a block of there this week, and it was all I could do to keep from stealing a bit of time to go down there and find out when. But after hearing of other dealers getting them already, I was afraid they might be one of those also, and my inability to stop myself once I have sat on a bike to keep from buying it, I didn't want to take the chance.  | ||
| Eor |
Proud owner of a Geezer Glide [FLHTCI] and a CityX here... Ulysses would have to really blow my socks off to replace both in my garage. I have considered the possibility, though. On the other hand, I have firmly established myself as being "somewhat different."  | ||
| Reepicheep |
You and me both Poser! I breathed a sigh of relief as well. BTW, F&S (the dayton dealer) sold me a new Pirelli Scorpion Sync for about what I could get the thing mail order, then mounted it (wheel off bike) for $25. Where are you at in Cincy? I am in Lebanon now (moved from Greenhills). | ||
| Bcordb3 |
I just read the Rider Magazine article about the Uly, The writer absolutely loved the bike. No negativity at all. Especially like the part where is said "you can often leave the bike in third gear on your favorite winding road and go as fast as you've ever gone in your life-maybe faster. Between corners the bike accelerates like a demon when you want it to". Great article. | ||
| Imaposer |
Where are you at in Cincy? I am in Lebanon now (moved from Greenhills). Born and raised westside. Following the trend for a fourth generation, moved one more step out from the center, to harrison a few years ago. BTW, F&S (the dayton dealer) sold me a new Pirelli Scorpion Sync for about what I could get the thing mail order, then mounted it (wheel off bike) for $25. That's the way Pro Stock Performance is for me. I tell them what I want, how much I found it for online, and that's what they charge me. They are handling the shipping of my Cagiva to it's new owner for me since I'm not available from 8-4 mon-fri like the shipping company requires.  | ||
| Madduck |
Whodom, Ferris Getting my X dynoed won't be a problem. We dyno the race bikes at Wiebler HD/Buell in Davenport Iowa. He's a great guy, friend of many years and we can probably dyno a new one too. That way we can have both done same day same dyno to eliminate the whining later. Wouldn't surprise me if we couldn't do it going through Denver on Aarons' dyno, either coming or going. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
sounds good Madduck, unfortunately won't have time on the way west, maybe on the return trip east? FB | ||
| Outrider |
Jerry...Thanks for asking if I had any specific questions that would assist me in the decision to by a XB12X. To be perfectly honest, as both an on and off road rider, my reply is to just continue to do what you are planning to on this trip. Perhaps some pics of the nastier off road conditions you conquer would be a good thing as there has been some pro's and con's presented here and elsewhere about its off road limitations. In essence, like Reg, you will be putting a new bike through its paces in a variety of environments and documenting your experiences. Where you and Reg differ from the mainstream press is that you will be telling your story in your own way based on your years of riding experience and will be presenting this information in a way that current Bueller's will understand while affording the Non-Bueller's an opportunity to better understand both the Buell Concept and the XB12X. If there was one thing I would like to see, it would be reports from some XB12X owners that have stripped their bikes and perhaps made some modifications to make them more dirt worthy. Heck, we all know a few are going to do that and those are the kind of war stories I would like to see. Lastly, everything I have read about the XB12X has been quite positive and it truly is an Adventure/Sport/Touring bike. Not to mention it is extremely well suited to the decaying roads we have in Wisconsin. As for buying one, I just might after a test ride. I do believe it will do everything I want it to and I really appreciate the value of the beaver tail as well as the new belt, tranny and oil pump drive gear. Note the belt and drive gear are going into my X1 asap as those were the last two fears I had concerning long distance solo trips with it. So enjoy your adventure and tell us all about it. For the moment, we all resemble Pavlov's Dogs (Insert picture of drooling dog here) with the bits and pieces we have read.  | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
Outrider, thanks for the great post. i'll do my best to put you all in the rider's seat when i get back and start telling the tale. 29 days... | ||
| Chasespeed |
Seriously, based on what I know of it so far, numbers, rides etc..... It is exactly what I am looking for, and more... No, I will NEVER sell my X1, keeps me sane... BUT, there are seriously only 2 things I need before I buy one... 1st, a nice serious ride on one..not a 5 mile demo...something like they did at the dealer convention in colorado, time enough to see if its gonna be comfortable FOR ME on a long ride, though that shouldnt be hard, seeing as how I can ride my clip on, rearset X1 500+ miles without much compplaint.... 2nd...need to hit the lottery....I hate being in the military sometimes...lack on money sucks..its not the credit..its the income...oh well...as I posted before, hopefully, there will eventually be a used one somewhere I can afford..then I can do some serious long distance touring...camping, etc.... Patience, yeagh its a virtue, but sometimes, it keeps me awake at night...lol Chase | ||
| Swampman |
"I can't even imagine the thought of a "Harley rider" trading." I've owned 4 new Harleys in the last 3 years and I have an XB12X on order. We need to remember that Harley does build two real motorcycles. The XL-883 and the 1200 Roadster. |
