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Freyke
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW

Odysseus in Greek. Ulysses/Odysseus is the hero of Homer's epic poem the Odyssey. In it Homer portrays him as a man of outstanding wisdom and shrewdness, eloquence, resourcefulness, courage, and endurance. Classical Greek writers presented Ulysses/ Odysseus either as an unscrupulous politician or as a wise and honorable statesman. Roman writers, including Virgil, disparaged him while others, such as Horace and Ovid, unabashedly admired him. Early Christian writers praised Ulysses/Odysseus as the wise pilgrim. To this day, he remains an enigma: "the man of many turns," an archetype for every age.

Got this from a google search - sourced from http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.gov/HAS/cirr/glossary.cfm
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Johnnyrfast
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also Ulysses created the Trojan horse, not only that but he had an epic journey close to 10 years during which he had many adventures...
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Freyke
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"TELL ME, O MUSE, of that ingenious hero who travelled far and wide
after he had sacked the famous town of Troy. Many cities did he visit,
and many were the nations with whose manners and customs he was
acquainted; "
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Dhutty
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He was also tempted by Sirens, who sang songs so compellingly beautiful it caused mariners to turn twoards them and crash into the rocks where the sirens would then literally eat them alive.

Perhaps Ulysses Buell arrived becuase he resisted the song of the V-Rod or other complicated powerplant.
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Eor
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can see the "Cliff's Notes" version of The Odyssey by renting Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
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Dhutty
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"We thought you wuz a horny toad!"
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Turnagain
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

from Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
 Ulysses
Ulysses Everett McGill
 three sirens
oh yeah, the Sirens!
(btw, not that great of a movie)
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Santacruzmtman
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great Soundtrack though.
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or perhaps the novel by Joyce? Nah I don't think so.
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Rr_eater
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Boy you 'bout dumber than a bag 'o hammers!"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Bruce
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Whodom
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"She done R-U-N-N-O-F-T"
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Fenderbender
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We thought you was a TOAD!
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Freyke
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"This place must be a geographical oddity; it's two weeks from everywere"
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Xring
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So much for the Bad Weather theme.

Bill
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Dbird29
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least it wasn't another Cohen Brothers movie, else it would be "The Dude"

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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Surely there was once a Hurricane or tropical storm named "Ulysses."
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do

not

seek

the treasure





more Ulysses for us
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"So much for the bad weather theme."

Maybe, depends on how deeply you probe...

Some insider info...


quote:

“Oxen of the Sun” is the fourteenth chapter in Ulysses. It is the eleventh part of the Wanderings of Ulysses section of the novel. This episode underscores the theme of exile, which is a central idea for this section of the novel. The title of this episode “Oxen of the Sun” is derived from an incident recounted by Odysseus in book XII of the Odyssey. In the Odyssey Odysseus and his shipmates leave the island of Circe and land on the island of the sun god Helios. After safely passing by the Sirens and Scylla and Charybdis Odysseus and the crew take refuge from stormy seas on the island of Helios, and they plan to spend the night there. Odysseus repeatedly warns his shipmates not to harm Helios or his sacred golden cattle as they graze freely in a pasture along the coast where the men have landed because he knows they could face harsh consequences for doing so. The men swear not to bother the cattle, but they become stranded on the island for days because of bad weather and their supplies run low. Because of this the men kill and feast upon some of the cattle when Odysseus goes off to pray. Helios is enraged by this and wants revenge so he has Zeus punish the men by hurling a lightning bolt at their ship as they are leaving the island. All of the men aboard the ship are killed except for Odysseus who is spared because he did not take part in the slaughtering of the cattle. He is left floating on a piece of the destroyed ship until he reaches Calypso’s island where he becomes stranded.


Yikes.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chapter XVI. Grant, Ulysses S. 1885–86. Personal Memoirs

quote:

Ulysses S. Grant (1822–85). Personal Memoirs. 1885–86. ... I worked very hard,
never losing a day because of bad weather


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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But here's the best connection...

It was bad weather that sent Ulysses off on his epic journey in the first place.

Works for me. : )
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Dhutty
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well done Blake!
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José_quiñones
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cause MultiStrada was already taken?
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Chadleys1
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the Civil War, didn't Don C. BUELL lead an army into the battle of Shiloh that turned the tide of the battle in favor of the Union? If I remember correctly, the Union soldiers already in that battle that were in need of help were led by ULYSSES S. Grant.
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Chadleys1
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah,
Maybe there was bad weather during that battle.
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Johnnyrfast
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a motorcycle club - Ulysses...their motto being, "Growing old disgracefully", disgraceful and bad is almost the same thing...it is always an epic adventure riding in badweather...
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Xring
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can see you are a real renaissance man, Blake. Very nice. Kind of a stretch, but nice.

Anyway, I suppose Ulysses is better than having a Buell Cumulonimbus.

Bill
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never thought we'd have a humanities lesson on this site.
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Gschuette
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O Brother Where Art Thou is the best movie. Well it is my favorite at least.

I thought the bike was named after the Civil War hero and U.S. President. Should have named the bike the General Lee.
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Dhutty
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I too LOVE "Oh Brother"

I hope Ulysses isn't named after US Grant, but if it is and I ever get one, I may have to name my personal XB12X "Traveller"
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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope, definitely not after Grant, but after Homer's hero. Lots of cool symbolism matches in the story, aren't there?!
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